Selling by Auction.

kilmaccumsey

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Hello all.
I'm looking for info advice or anyone done this, I'm looking to sell a piece of land and looking into options. I have been offered (via Facebook of all places) a figure, obviously I want to get as much as I can.
Do I go down the auction way or avoid. Its agricultural land so doubt it will ever get planning permission. I also have fishing rights.
Thanks in advance
 

tek-monkey

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Around Stafford? The huge housing estate north of Beaconside used to be agricultural didn't it?

I'd look for an estate agent that sells that sort of land then compare what you have to what others are selling.
 

Theresa Green

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Around Stafford? The huge housing estate north of Beaconside used to be agricultural didn't it?

I'd look for an estate agent that sells that sort of land then compare what you have to what others are selling.
Yes it did

Then the company that once was ICI bought up swathes of lands around towns in the UK including that land in Stafford

They then subsequently sold it onwards

Factors involved in the value will ( obviously) be

Location
Access to the plot
It's allocation on a town or village plan
If it's in the Green Belt
Size
How flat it is

If it's only a couple of acres then it might have value to someone with animals

Consider if the land has value a ransom strip for future access to nearby land

Be aware that certain local ' agents' will have interested parties that they regularly sell to and so might not quote market price
 

Bob

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The rules that can be ‘amended’ by big developers are different to the rules that apply to us mere mortals.

Butters John Bee look to be the auction go to agents, maybe try Hinson Parry in Eccleshall or Fisher German on the Tech Park in Stafford too.

If it borders any houses maybe let the home owners know you’re thinking of selling, its value as an addition to a property is different to its value as a sheep field.
 
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Theresa Green

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The rules that can be ‘amended’ by big developers are different to the rules that apply to us mere mortals.

Butters John Bee look to be the auction go to agents, maybe try Hinson Parry in Eccleshall or Fisher German on the Tech Park in Stafford too.

If it borders any houses maybe let the home owners know you’re thinking of selling, its value as an addition to a property is different to its value as a sheep field.

I'd recommend staying well clear of Butters John Bee.

I can't account for the other two
 

kilmaccumsey

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Hello. Its just over the border in Shropshire about 25 miles from here. There is a barn on it corrugated abdd originally a timber-framed windmill knocked down illegally in 1962. There is good access but on green belt land.
I got some thinking to do. Interesting comments from you.
 

Bob

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I can and I wouldn't with a barge pole.
Only suggestions, not recommendations.

I haven’t dealt with Hinson Parry so can’t comment, I have had dealings with Fisher German and they haven’t given me any cause to complain.

There is a Barber rural in market Drayton, I have had family deal with theses and not be completely satisfied though.
 

kilmaccumsey

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Only suggestions, not recommendations.

I haven’t dealt with Hinson Parry so can’t comment, I have had dealings with Fisher German and they haven’t given me any cause to complain.

There is a Barber rural in market Drayton, I have had family deal with theses and not be completely satisfied though.
I used Barbers before. Years ago they charged me over £100 to look/value it then I got a bill £700. for no reason what's ever as they did nothing. Never paid it never heard from them again.
 

markpa12003

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Hello. Its just over the border in Shropshire about 25 miles from here. There is a barn on it corrugated abdd originally a timber-framed windmill knocked down illegally in 1962. There is good access but on green belt land.
I got some thinking to do. Interesting comments from you.

Have you tried getting planning permission to convert the barn to a residential dwelling? I'd do that before selling the land.
Hello. Its just over the border in Shropshire about 25 miles from here. There is a barn on it corrugated abdd originally a timber-framed windmill knocked down illegally in 1962. There is good access but on green belt land.
I got some thinking to do. Interesting comments from you.
Contact Harris Lamb. They've got an office in S-O-T. They have planning consultants working for them that will be able to advise on the lands development potential and obtain planning permission, if its got any potential. They also have agents that will market / sell the land for you.

Land can be removed from the Green Belt and planning approval for residential conversions of an existing agricultural building is possible, however not easy.
 

kilmaccumsey

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I've always been told I'd never get planning permission and it would cost me 10 K to apply. It's classed as agricultural land. That was from telford and wrekin Council. Also a house plan for local workers use only was turned down by the council this year. Maybe its who you know in the know.
 

Theresa Green

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I've always been told I'd never get planning permission and it would cost me 10 K to apply. It's classed as agricultural land. That was from telford and wrekin Council. Also a house plan for local workers use only was turned down by the council this year. Maybe its who you know in the know.

Sure

Green Belt isn't involved

But yes, you are unlikely to get a house on agricultural land, unless you are replacing an existing house, or ruin of one

If you have an old map of the plot, see if there were ever any structures within the curtilage
 

tek-monkey

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I vaguely remember an exes step dad(who did barn conversions) telling me the owner of the barn can do what they want to it but the owner who tries to convert has to keep it as close as possible to how they purchased it. He was moaning about some bricked up windows that he wasn't allowed to open back up.

You'd need professional advice obviously, but there may be things you could do to the barn to make it more attractive as a conversion?
 
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