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Just little old me:)

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Yet another one who doesn't get the difference between anti-vaxer and anti something else that came along that is different to the others!
If you need it explaining to you, I guess that explains your problem!
If I was anything like the muppets in previous posts were implying. I wouldn't have ever taken any other vaccine, taken life saving drugs for over 40 years, taken any other jabs that I'd researched or spoken out on this matter rather than general medication.
There's an obvious difference beween being clever and think you are, as proved by said people!
I have always said that it is a person's choice whether they have the vaccine or not. But I do believe that if someone doesn't have a vaccine for any illness that one is available for that should that individual then suffer from that illness they will not be treated by the NHS. So as someone who has chosen not to have the vaccine (which is any individuals own choice to make) are you happy to declare that should you suffer with COVID-19 you will not seek NHS help? If so fair play👍
 

littleme

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Exactly what I think,.......I worked the whole way through it.....while in the middle of it, if you caught it it wasn't counted against your sickness record.....not recorded.......now after nearly 3 years I get it, I'm TOO ILL TO WORK.....but no leniency.....what the hell did we do all of that stuff for....(queuing, distancing, rules,) what was that farking for......it took nearly 2 years of my life.....worse for the carer who was furloughed.....WHAT THE feck FOR????
 

Thehooperman

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Guess whose having a disciplinary at work for being ill with COVID.......it takes me over my 3% yearly allowance for illnesses.....FFS
We had a maximum numbers of days in our objectives that we are allowed to take sick for.

I refused to sign up to that one because it wasn't realistic or achievable.

When I tested positive for COVID I asked the exec board whether they wanted me to go into the office so that I didn't affect the objective targets.

All of a sudden everyone had that objective removed. The exec claimed they hadn't realised how stupid the objective was until I offered to go in and potentially infect the whole office.

Hope you don't get penalised for being poorly @littleme.
 

littleme

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We had a maximum numbers of days in our objectives that we are allowed to take sick for.

I refused to sign up to that one because it wasn't realistic or achievable.

When I tested positive for COVID I asked the exec board whether they wanted me to go into the office so that I didn't affect the objective targets.

All of a sudden everyone had that objective removed. The exec claimed they hadn't realised how stupid the objective was until I offered to go in and potentially infect the whole office.

Hope you don't get penalised for being poorly @littleme.
I will. It's so stupid, I feel like everything was for nothing. To top it off I now have vertigo, so keep feeling like I'm slipping or falling over....but if I have more time me off it'll be ANOTHER disciplinary......fit note or not. (I had a fit note when posative with covid).
 

gilbert grape

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I have always said that it is a person's choice whether they have the vaccine or not. But I do believe that if someone doesn't have a vaccine for any illness that one is available for that should that individual then suffer from that illness they will not be treated by the NHS. So as someone who has chosen not to have the vaccine (which is any individuals own choice to make) are you happy to declare that should you suffer with COVID-19 you will not seek NHS help? If so fair play👍
You seem to be forgetting that a small minority will need NHS care for recovering and many of those may have been ill with other conditions.
I'm alarmed that so many people seem to do a full 180 with their views going from "we must care for ALL and take the correct actions BECAUSE WE CARE" to "You should suffer because you didn't play our game!" You sound like fascists! CRASS!
 

tek-monkey

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You seem to be forgetting that a small minority will need NHS care for recovering and many of those may have been ill with other conditions.
I'm alarmed that so many people seem to do a full 180 with their views going from "we must care for ALL and take the correct actions BECAUSE WE CARE" to "You should suffer because you didn't play our game!" You sound like fascists! CRASS!
I agree with you, well not exactly or even vaguely based on your words but the sentiment that all should be treated. We treat alcoholics, we treat drug addicts, we treat people who think they're better at extreme sports than they really are, this is no different. If you treat one lot who self harm you should treat all.
 

gilbert grape

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The absolute irony of being pulled up by somebody who found it fine to dish it out, then cry when it comes back.
I believe there's yet another description for people who do that!
 

gilbert grape

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I agree with you, well not exactly or even vaguely based on your words but the sentiment that all should be treated. We treat alcoholics, we treat drug addicts, we treat people who think they're better at extreme sports than they really are, this is no different. If you treat one lot who self harm you should treat all.
Self harm? Addiction! Your level of empathy and understanding knows no bounds. I can;t remember if it was you who first fired the shots with "Nut Job" jibes. That would be fitting from somebody who assesses people and treats fairly.
 

tek-monkey

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Self harm? Addiction! Your level of empathy and understanding knows no bounds. I can;t remember if it was you who first fired the shots with "Nut Job" jibes. That would be fitting from somebody who assesses people and treats fairly.
I fully empathise with addicts, god knows I've known a few and been one myself, it's quite scary how many of my old mates never made it out of their 30s. Putting yourself on a path of harm because in your head it seems like a good idea, all the science says you're wrong but you do it anyway because you think it's fine and they don't really know what they're talking about.

And I think they should be treated, because it is a sickness, so explain to me why that means I have no empathy or understanding?

As for the rest I can't remember calling you a nut job, but sometimes I do type what I'm thinking without realising so who knows. If you can show me where I said that then I'll believe you, if you can't I won't, thats how proof works.
 

littleme

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Stupid covid.... So tested posative on 25th Dec, but I'm still having weird things happen that I think might be connected..weird bouts of vertigo where I think I'm falling/slipping along with dizzyness sickness feeling, still go a muggy head and cough.

The drs have me doing my *blood pressures online as when I went for my B12 jab they were high (they're always high, I'm on 3 different tablets for it).....but this mornings reading was 194/94 even after 4 attempts I could only get it to 184/94.


If you hear of someone spontaneously combusting overnight, it could be me.


(*I have an actual appt to see an actual Dr on Monday about this)...
 

lochdhu

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Stupid covid.... So tested posative on 25th Dec, but I'm still having weird things happen that I think might be connected..weird bouts of vertigo where I think I'm falling/slipping along with dizzyness sickness feeling, still go a muggy head and cough.

The drs have me doing my *blood pressures online as when I went for my B12 jab they were high (they're always high, I'm on 3 different tablets for it).....but this mornings reading was 194/94 even after 4 attempts I could only get it to 184/94.


If you hear of someone spontaneously combusting overnight, it could be me.


(*I have an actual appt to see an actual Dr on Monday about this)...
Sounds like what I experienced after having the plague Jan 2020, the episodes are not as regular but having a walking stick has helped with the balance issues (got disciplined, nhs) spend my days off resting it helps, good you are being seen by a Dr fingers crossed they can help.:hug:
 

littleme

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Sounds like what I experienced after having the plague Jan 2020, the episodes are not as regular but having a walking stick has helped with the balance issues (got disciplined, nhs) spend my days off resting it helps, good you are being seen by a Dr fingers crossed they can help.:hug:
I know it's terrible, but I'm glad to know it's not just me.....hope you're doing as well as you can 😊
 

Just little old me:)

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You seem to be forgetting that a small minority will need NHS care for recovering and many of those may have been ill with other conditions.
I'm alarmed that so many people seem to do a full 180 with their views going from "we must care for ALL and take the correct actions BECAUSE WE CARE" to "You should suffer because you didn't play our game!" You sound like fascists! CRASS!
Unfortunately I come from an era (as outdated as it may seem) where people couldn't claim benefits if they hadn't paid enough NI stamps. As someone who has been fortunate to be both able bodied and prepared to work for a living this has never been an issue how ever we live in a society that has been grown by politicians pledges that thinks the government owes them a living. When I was a kid if my parents had said it is the governments responsibility to feed me during school holidays I would have been taken into care as my parents would have been deemed unfit to provide.
The NHS is under so much financial pressure that if it 'breaks' I don't think 'non working people' realise the consequence. So yes there are drug addicts, alcoholics etc but if there was no free treatment on the NHS as it collapsed then what?
Scary thought but when there's talk of paying for doctors/ hospital consultation in the news then we may not be as far from NHS collapse as we think. How's that working for America? 🤔
We currently have the lowest level of unemployment for a very long time which means the highest level of NI payments and the NHS still can't cope with the 'massive' 1.25% f NI that it receives???
Change of government will not change this as the vast amount of NI is to cover pensions and 'benefits' so an opt out of NI will never be an option whilst the state needs to 'support' so many.
Basically anything we can do to prevent extra strain on the NHS will also help the working people
 
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