Double yellow lines on Castlefields

Gramaisc

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tek-monkey said:
Bit confused at where those car parks are? The postcode for the Lammascate Gyratory puts me on Kingsmead?
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I'm not really much of a car-park user. I got the impression that they might mean that you can park in any 'Long Term' zones, wherever they might exist..

Leave it for a couple of hours at Lidl and stroll the couple of hundred yards - that's my system.
 
basil

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db said:
haven't seen them me sen, just a friend on castlefields put the following on facebook at about 10:00 this morning:



either way, expect a letter moaning about it in this week's newsletter lol.. not from me, obv's.. probably david s. parker, or b. bradbury, or one of the other regular "contributors" :v:
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...or that nutter Houlton, suspect he's an ex rozzer.......
 
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flossietoo said:
I have to work in Stafford but I refuse to shop there or make any other visits to the town centre. That is purely because of the parking charges and the atitude towards parking by the Council, which clearly views it as a cash generator. I have found wardens loitering by my car, waiting for the ticket to expire. That is at 5pm - when half the car park is empty and there is certainly no argument that ticketing somehow keeps the place moving. All they are doing, transparently, is seeking to extort money out of people they know are working in the town centre.
Instead, I support the businesses in Newport where all the car parks are free. Telford & Wrekin tried to implement parking charges there a few years ago. So everyone, almost without exception, left the car parks empty. Saturday afternoon, which would normally see them full of shoppers, saw one lonely car. The shopkeepers put huge pressure on the council, backed by the local paper. A fortnight later the machines had gone. Newport doesn't have problems with people parking in residential streets because they don't need to do so. There is an excellent bus service with the interchange right in the town centre and there are plenty of car parking spaces. In fairness, the traders have also been very vocal and organised to protect their customers. That is something that, maybe, is more difficult in Stafford where the multiples don't have a local interest or a voice.
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According to the Newsletter, there is "Fury as tickets rocket" - http://www.staffordshirenewsletter.co.uk/News/Fury-as-tickets-rocket-11042012.htm - we'll see....
 
joshua

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So no real fury then, just the usual mill street mafia griping because they cant get their own self-serving way, oh and does anybody proof read the snoozeletter articles before they go to print anymore ?.
 
gilbert grape

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Surely if there was ample safe affordable parking and efficient affordable public transport the whole parking issue would be reduced.
I paid about £130 for a pass and visitors permit to park outside my own house last year and not had a ticket since. Maybe that is the way for some areas.
I'll be interested to see what happens on Castlefields on match days from now on!
 
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Well it can only be said that all the hard work that went in to getting the council to paint some yellow lines must have fallen on deaf ears.

They turned up and painted yellow lines down one side of Martin Drive where no one ever parks anyway.

Painted yellow lines around the island. Which is the biggest in the world and people parking on it never really caused any issues. They didn't paint lines on Kingsway ( where the problem actually is)

They did however paint lines away from the island along Redgrave drive up to the bend. Which has now pushed people to park on the bend and has caused an accident waiting to happen.

Thanks stafford council your great.




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staff4ord said:
Well it can only be said that all the hard work that went in to getting the council to paint some yellow lines must have fallen on deaf ears.

They turned up and painted yellow lines down one side of Martin Drive where no one ever parks anyway.

Painted yellow lines around the island. Which is the biggest in the world and people parking on it never really caused any issues. They didn't paint lines on Kingsway ( where the problem actually is)

They did however paint lines away from the island along Redgrave drive up to the bend. Which has now pushed people to park on the bend and has caused an accident waiting to happen.

Thanks stafford council your great.

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Sorry but I have to disagree with most of this post, but mostly the "down one side of Martin Drive where no one ever parks anyway"...

I have seen people park on the Northerly side of Martin Drive which when they are parked on the Southerly side too makes it very difficult / dangerous.

I also disagree that "the problem is on Kingsway"... IMHO it is only on Kingsway where the Rugby club crossing is (people having to cross between parked cars) and at the roundabout with Newport Road where two lanes need to be clear to allow entry to the roundabout. Both of these problems have been addressed with the extended lines. The rest of Kingsway is easily wide enough to have parked cars and safe passage to moving vehicles.

I will agree with you on the roundabout bit though, was fine with cars parked on there and plenty of space left over.

Finally, I believe that the request for the lines was put forward by Castlefields Residents Association (a long, long time ago) and that the request has been widely publicised in the RA literature... if you live on Castlefields then you should have been aware of what was going on and had opportunity to influence it. I am nothing to do with the Residents Association BTW.

Hope this helps clarify things a bit.
 
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I lived in Castlefields at the time that these proposals were made, and the RA agreed with what's gone down. The lines are in place to deal with dangerous parking, not to deal with parking that's just annoying for some people. Although the roundabout is plenty big enough to park on and probably didn't need lines, I can see why they felt they had to do it for consistency- as it is illegal to park on junctions and roundabouts anyway.
 
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I don't live in castlefields but I do visit friends who make a good and valid point. Why should people who can't be arsed to pay to park use private roads. During the time they are there some have been broken into and some will again. This then pushes the price of car and house insurance up as crimes that would not normally of happened have been committed.

How is that fair to the people who live there?
 
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Daft question maybe, but why was that roundabout built so damn big in the first place??? It's for a housing estate with about 500 homes (i've recently leafleted it) and the island is built wide enough to allow for 3 lanes! I've often wondered if the estate had other plans that never went ahead that would have required such an island.
 
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wmrcomputers said:
Daft question maybe, but why was that roundabout built so damn big in the first place??? It's for a housing estate with about 500 homes (i've recently leafleted it) and the island is built wide enough to allow for 3 lanes! I've often wondered if the estate had other plans that never went ahead that would have required such an island.
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Like a 'Western Access Road', perhaps..?
 
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staff4ord said:
Why should people who can't be arsed to pay to park use private roads.
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Whilst I don't disagree with what you have said, I would point out that they are not private roads. They are council maintained roads and unless they have double yellows painted on them everyone has the right to park there.

I think the lines that have been painted on recently are about right and will eliminate the stupidity of the small minority. The parking as it is now does not cause any obstructions. Hear word that there is a push to put double yellows on the currently unaffected part of Martin Drive and extend them along Redgrave Drive. I think this would be an awful idea as it would then mean some of the parkers would park in the residential roads.

I hope the RA have the common sense to let the matter drop now.

Oh and as an aside, I've noticed over the past year or so that the numbers of commuters parking here has steadily dropped and been replaced by college students. I'd say that about 60% of the parkers are college students now.
 
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wmrcomputers said:
I've often wondered if the estate had other plans that never went ahead that would have required such an island.
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Gramaisc said:
Like a 'Western Access Road', perhaps..?
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exactly.. you can tell that they had further plans for the estate (for example, the way that martin drive just ends on another roundabout that goes nowhere, other than that park where the pikies were last year) but various hippies have stood in the way of progress, as usual :roll: so now there are just loads of nice, big roads for people to park on and people to practice 3-point turns on!
 
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db said:
but various hippies have stood in the way of progress, as usual :roll: so now there are just loads of nice, big roads for people to park on and people to practice 3-point turns on!
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The government decided it wasn't a high enough priority to provide funding. But don't let facts get in the way of anything.
 
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