Staffordshire University to move everything to Stoke?

number9

number9

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bastards, can I say that here?
i'd only read of it happening here when I joined. stoke waving their size over the county town again. stoke is a shit hole (can I say that here too) stoke is a shit hole (to get the point across even more) the money that place has had money pumped into it and its still a shit hole
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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number9 said:
bastards, can I say that here?
i'd only read of it happening here when I joined. stoke waving their size over the county town again. stoke is a shit hole (can I say that here too) stoke is a shit hole (to get the point across even more) the money that place has had money pumped into it and its still a shit hole
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You most certainly can say that - and you can say it again, if somebody quotes you.
 
1JKz

1JKz

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Staffordshire University to move everything to Stoke?

My first reaction: as if, oh c'mon, nah, not going to happen!
My second reaction: what about the gym, oh no the gym, nah never gonna happen.
My third reaction, has happened yet.
 
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markpa12003

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Warning....I'm about to state the obvious. The relocation of the University is extremely disappointing for a number of reasons; loss / relocation of jobs from the area; loss of students and impact on rental properties and night time economy and lastly the impact it will have on the wider public. The Stafford Campus provides a valuable asset, most notably its sports complex which I know a number of Stafford people / clubs use. Stafford Rangers FC also train at the University during the winter months.

What is going to happen to these important community assets (the astroturf pitches, 3 g pitch, sports centre etc etc)? Will they be safeguarded, and if so by who? Can you see the CC or BC purchasing the sports complex for example and creating a fantastic sports complex for the wider public benefit? Or would CC/ BC consider the purchasing the sports complex in conjunction with Stafford Rangers FC, therefore, allowing the club to relocate and creating a fantastic stadium, sports academy and sports complex to be used by all members of the community?
 
1JKz

1JKz

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In refereence to the sports section, the huge estate (and the ever expanding 'business park') that's being built a few yards/streets/roads away will need a sports facility just like this, no?

Knocked down and a supermarket put in its place, a retail park, uhhh we need one of those, uhhh reaaaaaally ...we ...do?!*

I can't see the place closing, the uni needs to stay put surely-to-oh-riley-christ!

...eh ducks?


*NOT
 
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ben0239

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As a former student of Staffordshire University and therefore a user of both Stafford and Stoke Campus, i would argue that Staffs University needs Stafford far more than they obviously thing. A number of my fellow students hated living in Stoke and disliked the cramped Stoke campus. Although I am sure that the closure of Beaconside will help the financial situation of the university it will certainly not help its all ready poor reputation and not stop the falling number of students applying to the uni.

On a seperate but connected point will this announcement have an impact on the plans for Entrust at Riverway. There plan is to build a HQ with teaching and conference facilities which they could have through buying Beaconside (or parts of) rather than building it.

I would echo the points of Markpa and hope that SBC, who do already have a connection to Beaconside (they have provided money previously to the center) will now seek to find a partner to enter into a joint user agreement for the facility.
 
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markpa12003

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I agree. We all need the sports complex (as well as the other facilities) that's why I would hate for these facilities to be lost under a supermarket car park (or whatever other use).
 
fatfrog

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Listening to the report on BBC, a poll of students was made and they said they would prefer to be in a city location, well that makes sense in most cases but STOKE ON TRENT. Who would want to be there. They would not choose to go to Staffordshire University based on the appeal of a city. I studied at Staffs Uni in Stafford and knew 2 people on my course who were on courses based at Stoke and hated the place so much that they swapped their course to one in Stafford.

Don't miss understand me, I have a great affection to Stoke On Trent having worked in the area some years ago but it is in a terrible state now which saddens me.

I just cannot believe Stafford is being closed

Stafford had a lot of foreign students when I was there and they all loved Stafford and still come back and visit. Don't think they would have done the same if they were in Stoke.
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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number9 said:
bastards, can I say that here?
i'd only read of it happening here when I joined. stoke waving their size over the county town again. stoke is a shit hole (can I say that here too) stoke is a shit hole (to get the point across even more) the money that place has had money pumped into it and its still a shit hole
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And so far from the dogging too
 
My Name is URL

My Name is URL

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Agree with some of the comments a page back, they do seem to have gone out to find evidence to support a move to Stoke, rather than considering all options equally and then conducting unbiased research to decide on the best one.

All of the reasons I have seen them quote to close Stafford could easily have been overcome:
1. - gender imbalance in Stafford (too many lads on computing courses) - just move nursing down from blackheath lane to the main campus = problem solved, less spare space and a bag of cash.

2. - not enough students in Stafford to fill the space - isn't that because they have moved a load up to Stoke?

3. - too much space to fill.... haven;t they just sold off one building? Sell off a bit of land / more buildings on top... or stop moving students up to Stoke.


I also agree about the biased questionnaires. Sure I saw something in the papers / internet a while back saying the remote location was the number one reason students disliked Stafford.... however it was also the number 1 reason they DID like Stafford too. As someone said, a negative is always a negative except when the alternative is even more negative....
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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I heard that Apple and Coca Cola were looking to relocate to Beaconside.....









but the rest of the lunch wanted to stay in the Tupperware box
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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My Name is URL said:
Agree with some of the comments a page back, they do seem to have gone out to find evidence to support a move to Stoke, rather than considering all options equally and then conducting unbiased research to decide on the best one.
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By all anecdotal evidence so far (and I'm hearing it from many sources) the questionnaire was biased, was filled in mainly by those at Stoke and was anonymised to ensure a lot couldn't be tracked back to where the students were based to find out if they were talking about their experiences at Stoke or Stafford.

What really gets me is that they have said they will not sell the campus to a rival education establishment, why not if Stafford is so bad? Quite obvious really, they know the students preferred it here and that they'll lose them should another uni start up in Stafford. The students are just cash flow, they couldn't give a monkeys about what they want. Plus quite a few staff will be due the chop when they restructure.
 
iamlegend

iamlegend

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I feel for everyone involved, students because of a higher risk of std's (in stoke you just have to breathe and you get one) , landlords in stafford , business owners near the student houses, pubs and bar no longer a student night in stafford.
 
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