Rugby Club progress...

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
How can Beaconside get any worse?

First it was our land ......
It wasn't just 'our' land - the buildings were paid for by ratepayers and the staff who created what was, at the time, quite a reasonable establishment, were paid by ratepayers - and ratepayers paid for the fittings and equipment, apart from the odd gift.
 

Carole

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Wow even Mother Nature joins the conspiracy. That's some power from the club.

This is my first post on this thread because I didn't think that anything I could add to the debate hadn't been said by someone else.

So this is just a curiousity thing really.

@Coeus

There is another thread going on to do with Gothic Cottage in the centre of Stafford, which has been bought by Martin Lennon ( his company ELM Stafford) and is being renovated.

You have been giving updates on this thread regarding the new windows and the renovation.

May I ask what your connection to Gothic Cottage/Martin Lennon and the Rugby Club is?

Are you the business partner of Martin Lennon (MAL) ?
 

Withnail

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I am trying to follow this but can find nowhere in this application where NE refer to SWT...
This is an interesting one, because in relation to this application it is true that NE seem to change their position.

In the previous application they were quite definitive that - and i quote - strong regard should be given to the position of the local Wildlife Trust.

That this application came so hard upon the last, i believe that they became somewhat lax, assuming that what went before would be assumed for this one.

It clearly was not.

Concerned about this, i sent an email to NE -

As you are no doubt aware, Stafford Rugby Club have submitted a new application for the above site in an attempt to forestall a Judicial Review into the process of the previous application. I note that you have raised no objection to this new application, with the proviso that "we recommend" that local bodies with greater local knowledge be consulted. In the previous application you also raised no objection, yet your proviso then was to urge that the Planning Officer pay "strong regard" to those bodies. As you are also no doubt aware, both the Staffordshire Wildlife Trust and Stafford Borough Council's Biodiversity Officer objected to the previous application.


i) Does the change from urging "strong regard" to "we recommend" represent a softening of your stance to this application?
- to which the response that I received was -
The change in wording was not intended as any kind of softening. My intention was for the planning officer to consider the views of those who know the site better than us. As Staffordshire Wildlife Trust manages the marshes they have greater knowledge of the site on the ground. Additionally they are better able to advise on the wider effects on the biodiversity of the area adjacent to the marshes... just because NE does not have any evidence that the development will damage the above features does not mean it will not impact biodiversity in other ways.
The ^above emphasis is mine, though the wording is not.
 
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Withnail

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The disturbing thing about your @Coeus identity, @MAL ,is the feigned ignorance - 'i am trying to follow this' - you seem to have created an alter ego that is incapable of grasping quite simple ideas.

It is possible that i am giving you too much credit, and your alter ego isn't quite so alter - perhaps you are an actual ignoramus - either way it is quite worrying.

You should probably get that sort of thing checked out. You've been under a lot of pressure lately.
 

Withnail

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You know that feeling when you've worked on something so long, been so absorbed by it, that it becomes your baby? When you are so attached to a project that you feel like it is the bread you break, the air that you breathe?

That's where @MAL is, and it is not a great place to be.


When the wheels start to grind on the axle - you wonder whether they're true.

When the cart starts veering to the left, though you're sure you're steering straight, you wonder whether the wheels are aligned.

When the cart pitches in the ditch, you wonder whether you'll be thrown clear.

When you're in the ditch, you wonder whether someone'll pull you out.

Only your friends will pull you out, make sure you have enough of them.
 

PPPPPP

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This is an interesting one, because in relation to this application it is true that NE seem to change their position.

In the previous application they were quite definitive that - and i quote - strong regard should be given to the position of the local Wildlife Trust.

That this application came so hard upon the last, i believe that they became somewhat lax, assuming that what went before would be assumed for this one.

It clearly was not.

Concerned about this, i sent an email to NE -


- to which the response that I received was -

The ^above emphasis is mine, though the wording is not.

No doubt the council inmates were and are fully aware of NE's position. So, fraud by misrepresentation -- or incompetence and maladministration if they try to deny it.
 
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