‘I can’t sleep’: the small business owners struggling to pay energy bills.

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Looking at buying a solar system and installing myself.
I ordered some more storage batteries for ours a couple of weeks ago, due to be installed shortly after we get back. Hopefully that will eliminate issues for us should the worst case power cut scenario come to pass. If not it'll be an extra bit of cheap charging for the cars.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
I ordered some more storage batteries for ours a couple of weeks ago, due to be installed shortly after we get back. Hopefully that will eliminate issues for us should the worst case power cut scenario come to pass. If not it'll be an extra bit of cheap charging for the cars.
I'll look to add storage after, those batteries are expensive at the moment! Well, unless you go for cheapo lead, but they have drawbacks.

Just realised I may need it certified for insurance, was just going to get a sparky to do the last bit but may need a proper solar person.
 

Lucy

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Would be interested to find out where you get your kit from etc., might be the quickest way for us to get solar...
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Would be interested to find out where you get your kit from etc., might be the quickest way for us to get solar...
Talking to someone now off fb marketplace, seems legit but need to know more yet. Looking at a basic 3.5kw system for £2600, will need to get my own mounts but it's a flat roof anyway so very few supply those. Will probably be 3k give or take, plus whatever it costs to get it signed off.

Seems you just stick it on a 32a breaker in the consumer unit but sure I'll need to pay a fortune for that!
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
OK, there's forms to fill out and energy distributors to notify. It'll be under 3.68kw so should sneak in on the simplest scheme.

Wasn't going to bother with the SEG but if I need it all signed off anyway I may as well.
 

Withnail

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If you turn down your radiator thermostatic valves a bit in less frequently used rooms. Stick an extra blanket on the bed then it all helps.
From the article actually linked ^above - 'The renewal on our gas has just come through. It has gone from £9,000 to £32,000 a year'

Are you seriously suggesting that a Fish 'n' Chip shop owner might save a few quid by sticking an extra blanket on his fish fryer?
Having the thermostat in the hallway isn't the best place either (big open space, front and back doors opening etc). If you have a wireless one stick it in the living room.
Perhaps he should stick a thermostat on the Moon to bring the temperature down a bit.

Small/Medium Businesses are going to die on their arses without intervention. All of them. This is literally a crisis.

Are we not realising this yet?
 

Theresa Green

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And theTWATS will be pleading to work from the office all week again as heating the home for the extra days will be unaffordable

Tuesday
Wednesday
And
ThursdayS
 
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Theresa Green

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Food
Water
Clothing
Shelter
Sleep

Self Fulfilment will have to wait

Truss wins

Sunak, so self-centred, blinded, misses his one opportunity to say it like it really is

Johnson announces he is rich thanks to his new arms dealer consulting role

How to burn your Daily Express and heat your home edition sells out

Princess Diana Ford Escort Thermostat found on the moon
 

Withnail

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Truss wins cause it sounds like chaff even if it doesn't.

Better than ideological austerity, though, what?
 

Withnail

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Who's going to make witty puns off of 'Sunak'?

Truss - bus, wuss, puss, cuss etc

Sunak - even six-pack is a stretch

No-brainer
 

gilesjuk

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From the article actually linked ^above - 'The renewal on our gas has just come through. It has gone from £9,000 to £32,000 a year'

Are you seriously suggesting that a Fish 'n' Chip shop owner might save a few quid by sticking an extra blanket on his fish fryer?

Perhaps he should stick a thermostat on the Moon to bring the temperature down a bit.

Small/Medium Businesses are going to die on their arses without intervention. All of them. This is literally a crisis.

Are we not realising this yet?

Nope, suggesting us individuals do that so we can then still afford possibly to buy fish and chips.

I know it is a crisis, but people thought it was more important to remove the PM than deal with the crisis. Some even think a general election would be a good thing, except that would then mean another two months without a functioning government.
 

Thehooperman

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Nope, suggesting us individuals do that so we can then still afford possibly to buy fish and chips.

I know it is a crisis, but people thought it was more important to remove the PM than deal with the crisis. Some even think a general election would be a good thing, except that would then mean another two months without a functioning government.
We've had over 10 years without a functioning government so what's another two months?
 

BobClay

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Quote: Looking at buying a solar system and installing myself.

Personally I'd leave Venus out of that plan, it's a bloody horrible place.

(It's even worse than Cleethorpes ... 🤪)
 
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BobClay

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PMSL.

I really wouldn't worry about that. Putin will have nuked us all before we get there. Those that survive can get light and heating from the gentle glow of the fallout.
Sounds to me like a good excuse for the West to get in and nuke seven bells of sh1t of him first. We'll go down, but that f***er will go down with us .... :P
 

Gramaisc

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Nope, suggesting us individuals do that so we can then still afford possibly to buy fish and chips.

I know it is a crisis, but people thought it was more important to remove the PM than deal with the crisis. Some even think a general election would be a good thing, except that would then mean another two months without a functioning government.
Johnson is Prime Minister, still being paid for the 'duty' and still with free use of all the facilities, which he is choosing to use for his own purposes.

We could have had the result of a general election by now.

This delay is purely the choice of the Tory Party, in its efforts to protect its own gravy train processes.

The lack of a functioning government is the choice of a few individuals, backed up by the whole of the Tory Party.

The lack of any action on the current crisis is a deliberate choice of the Tory government, led by Johnson and his cronies.
 
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