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Backup / cloud storage chat

Discussion in 'Computers and Gaming' started by wmrcomputers, Jan 18, 2017.

  1. wmrcomputers

    wmrcomputers Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist

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    The importance of still doing a local backup despite using a cloud one is that you can bulk recover rapidly from your local backup if your hard drive failed etc. Then use the cloud just to retrieve the latest data since your last manual local backup.
    I've never attempted it, but I'd hate to try and recover 500gb from the cloud!

    Personally I can't see how it would work. As a reseller now it costs £480 a year including 5tb across all customer accounts. Charging £1.99 a year would only allow an average of 20GB per customer across 240 customers JUST to break even. I cant see how they would do it. They're either newbie idiots and they'll panic when they realise that an extra 5TB costs them £50 per month automatically billed - instantly give up and leave you in the shit, or they have more money than sense. My guess is the first of those two.

    One other slight possibility is that they are selling a retail disc at £1.99 that they acquire almost free from Livedrive and that Livedrive hope to earn that customer at full pricing of £5 per month the year after. Who knows!
     
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  2. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

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    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    It's a strange thing, modern living

    Everyone desperate to not lose their data

    And yet government's and drug cartels still can't manage to encrypt theirs to destroy it

    No need to back anything up, just label it Top Secret MI6 Colombia contact lists

    Job done
     
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    Withnail Well-Known Forumite

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    Make FARC Great Again
     
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    Mikinton Well-Known Forumite

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    • Dropbox for a lot of my files (1tb subscription)
    • Version control (Git via Github, etc) for anything code-based
    • Google Drive via G Suite currently with a 1tb limit but it goes up by 1tb for every user in my G Suite organisation then goes unlimited after 5. Mostly use this for sharing folders with clients as it’s more likely for people to have a Google account than a Dropbox one
    • Home server with an attached 3tb HDD, mostly filled by my Plex setup so I need some more storage I guess... more refurbished WD drives!
    • I did have Time Machine on my Macbook setup to my Time Capsule but I now use Unifi Security Gateway and WAPs so that’s been decommissioned
    Been looking at Backblaze at $5/month/PC lately, no limit and they’ll ship you a HDD with your data on at the cost of the drive (refunded when you return it). Backblaze are the go-to for HDD reliability benchmarks due to their high drive turnover and absolute trashing they give them, so they’re pretty reliable I’d say.
     
  8. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    Anything free is a real temporary measure

    Anything online is a real temporary measure

    Like helicopters all drives will fail eventually

    Print off your photographs and documents

    Everything else is just when
     
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  9. PeterD

    PeterD ST16 Represent.

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    Everything I have is cloud based these days, google drive for docs, google for pictures and play music for my music. Due to idiot tax I lost everything once on a failed hard drive so everything is in multiple places. External HD, work laptop and pictures regularly backed to DVD.
     
  10. Mikinton

    Mikinton Well-Known Forumite

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    Has anyone had any more thoughts on Backup solutions?

    I've been using a 1tb external hard drive for the last five or six years, backing up every 3 to 6 months, usually just after I've edited a load of holiday photos. But it's running out of space and is down to its last 100gb, this morning's backup using up 125gb.

    I could be a bit more selective and get one more backup onto it, but I really should start thinking about the next solution.

    Suggestions, please?
     
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  11. Perrier

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    I use 2 servers , both hold around 8 TB so 16 TB in total.
    They are connected to the home network so everyone in the household can transfer to and from them .

    HP do some quite cheap servers , load a copy of windows 10 on the first drive then the remaining three slots can be used for storage and backups.

    ( I also use mine as a media server to send films/TV series to the televisions in the living room and 2 bedrooms using PLEX media server)

    @tek-monkey is your man to ask , he could prob explain it better than me and point you in the right direction.
     
  12. Perrier

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    ...also , another solution would be to buy a NAS ( network attached storage) solution.
    pretty much the same thing , just add more drives when you need them .

    ( the server solution usually works out cheaper though )
     
  13. Jonah

    Jonah Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk

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    If you are backing up that little then why not just buy a 2TB hard drive and back up to that. You will have double the capacity you have now.
     
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  14. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

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    Those microservers are great, although I inherited a proper 6 bay qnap a while back so tend to use that as my main storage now (2tb drives with one for recovery, so 10tb available). Even so I use Google photos to store all images off site, and gdrive for really important documents. I've realised lately that it's only my photos I care about, so have 3 copies of everything taken spread across cloud and 2 servers at home.
     
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  15. Gramaisc

    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    It is really only the pictures that I care about and could not obtain again. I save to disc every now and then, leaving it at a separate location. A lot of pictures still exist in the cameras, too - one usually in the car and one in the house, when I'm there. The pictures are in two machines, though they are bought in the house together, when I'm here. I do think about having a back-up drive, but I would need to keep it at another premises, to avoid a fire-loss risk.
     
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    Thanks for that, guys,

    I've just run WinDirStat just to get a better handle on what storage I'm using, and as @Jonah says, there really isn't very much. I've got a 1tb hard disc of which I'm using 215gb in total, which includes 33gb on documents, 33 gb on videos and 29 gb on photos. And that's probably all I'm backing up.

    So something like an external hard drive would probably fit the bill.

    What I'm most concerned about are my documents as there's a lot of work I wouldn't want to lose. Photos? A lot are on Facebook anyway, and I wouldn't worry too much if I lost my videos as they're not family videos or similar.

    Anyway, I reckon I 'produce' about 30gb of new output per year. I'll have to check, but is there any way to just do incremental back-ups i.e. just those files that have been updated since the last backup?
     
  17. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

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    I used to have 4 different cloud storage systems, all synchronising the same folder. All were free, but only for a few gb.
     
  18. Thehooperman

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    Good old photo album? :)
     
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    Mikinton Well-Known Forumite

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    I've got a cabinet full of those and a large box full of photo envelopes. I've always had thought of scanning the best, and cropping and colour-balancing them, but somehow it's never quite happened. A bit like me moving my VHS videos onto DVD.
     
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    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    I had planned to interrogate Ecker about the best way to tackle all my old slides, negatives and prints, but I never did get round to it.
     
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