Coronavirus.

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
1 in 5000 is about 0.02%.
According to the Australian Journal of General Practise, 1.6% of people who take paracetamol have an adverse reaction.

That's not pro-vaccine propaganda, it's just counting.
Now come on. Do you seriously expect us to believe that we should trust the Australian Journal of Generalise Practise over some wacko American ex journal?

Get real man!
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
Early figures of those that actually reported rather than all of the unknown. This is still in the trial phase and more figures are still held back. New Zealand are now going through their damage figures and reports are being submitted to government.
Carry on the cover up and ignoring the millions that are saying no, while swallowing it that false results are all genuinely covid. Your "report" will be highly accurate because it agrees with your closed off sterile views.
PS there's also a new campaign from within NHS workers against mandatory masks due to mounting evidence of their lack of protection and increased harm. Gives you something else to bitch about and dig up contradictory stories!
 

rudie111

Well-Known Forumite
Early figures of those that actually reported rather than all of the unknown. This is still in the trial phase and more figures are still held back. New Zealand are now going through their damage figures and reports are being submitted to government.
Carry on the cover up and ignoring the millions that are saying no, while swallowing it that false results are all genuinely covid. Your "report" will be highly accurate because it agrees with your closed off sterile views.
PS there's also a new campaign from within NHS workers against mandatory masks due to mounting evidence of their lack of protection and increased harm. Gives you something else to bitch about and dig up contradictory stories!

Does that include during surgery?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Does that include during surgery?
Don't be silly, masks help in some circumstances whilst simultaneously harming in other very similar ones!

It's amazing nobody noticed this mask harm before really, when they've been wearing them in hospitals for decades, thank god for youtube videos from people with sketchy medical backgrounds or we'd still be none the wiser.
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
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SketchyMagpie

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For what it's worth, I fully support their right to campaign for what they believe in. Everyone should have that right. But the fact is they are a tiny minority within the NHS and 90% of the workforce are not a part of that campaign (plus there is a clear anti-mask agenda within their publicity so it's not just about freedom of choice at all).

If the fact they are NHS workers holds any sway for you, then the fact that 9x as many of the same disagree with them or are not actively supporting them should speak volumes.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Just don't go? You have a choice, you can not put yourself in a situation where you need to wear one by not entering the premises of places that ask you to. Or is your choice more important than their choice?
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
It's ironic that you two speak about choice when anything but your own views have been belittled, ridiculed and dismissed. How out of character!
Most of the posts on this thread totally oppose bodily autonomy and are almost cult-like, wile accusing anybody who speaks differently as being nut jobs, conspiracy theorists or idiots because "they didn't provide a link to the evidence".
I just wonder how many will have the guts to come on here, after losing loved ones having had jabs and adverse reactions, for fear of being called all of the above? None of you seem to think of that, but there are loads out there who have, but the system has covered it up as something else.
Zero sympathy because your graphs and charts tell you convenient data rather than the love and empathy we should show, just like those declared as lost to a virus, or illness.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
It's ironic that you two speak about choice when anything but your own views have been belittled, ridiculed and dismissed. How out of character!
Most of the posts on this thread totally oppose bodily autonomy and are almost cult-like, wile accusing anybody who speaks differently as being nut jobs, conspiracy theorists or idiots because "they didn't provide a link to the evidence".
I just wonder how many will have the guts to come on here, after losing loved ones having had jabs and adverse reactions, for fear of being called all of the above? None of you seem to think of that, but there are loads out there who have, but the system has covered it up as something else.
Zero sympathy because your graphs and charts tell you convenient data rather than the love and empathy we should show, just like those declared as lost to a virus, or illness.
Your favourite politician, Boris, couldn't even cover up the fact that he had parties during lockdown. How successful do you imagine he would have been at covering something way more serious, in an age where there are whistleblowers everywhere?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
It's ironic that you two speak about choice when anything but your own views have been belittled, ridiculed and dismissed. How out of character!
Most of the posts on this thread totally oppose bodily autonomy and are almost cult-like, wile accusing anybody who speaks differently as being nut jobs, conspiracy theorists or idiots because "they didn't provide a link to the evidence".
I just wonder how many will have the guts to come on here, after losing loved ones having had jabs and adverse reactions, for fear of being called all of the above? None of you seem to think of that, but there are loads out there who have, but the system has covered it up as something else.
Zero sympathy because your graphs and charts tell you convenient data rather than the love and empathy we should show, just like those declared as lost to a virus, or illness.

You do have the choice though, you can choose not to go, why does your choice override their choice? What makes you more important than them? If a doctor wants you to take a precaution not to infect them why is that a problem for you? Because you believe different things, and your belief trumps theirs? If so why are you seeing them at all, whats the point if you don't trust their judgement? Why not treat your problem from advice on youtube instead?

And as stated above the idea that a government like ours could even cover up a teapot if you glued a cosy to each hand is frankly hysterical, as is the idea that a plucky group of youtube bloggers that monetise their content uncovered it all.
 
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