Coronavirus.

[gilbert grape]

You often talk about us having preconceptions about how you think or respond to things, you're guilty of that here.

Very rarely do I ever just say "that's nonsense" to something you post without any explanation or reasoning. That's what "outright dismissal" would be.

The truth is, because I don't swim in the same conspiracy theorist channels as you, often when you post a claim it's the first I've heard of it. So what I then do is go and investigate what the claim is, look at what the data says and it pretty much always turns out that something is being misrepresented and the entire premise of the claim is wrong.

I don't do this because I think that you, personally, will be convinced but just so I know, for myself, what the reason that this claim is untrue is incase I ever encounter it in the real world because I know a few older people who this kind of misinformation is targeted at.

To imply that we don't even consider the things you post just because they conflict with what we've seen on the telly tube is disingenuous of you, when the reality is we have often devoted more mental energy to considering the truth of the things you post than you have.

You say “we” like you speak for everybody! If you only knew how many read this without wanting the grief of dealing with your responses!
I’m so happy you know you’re always 100% correct due to your undoubtable research.

 

[gilbert grape]

Answer honestly, Gilbert: do YOU go away and research what we tell you before reaching your conclusions that we're wrong, as we do when YOU post things, or is it in fact YOU that offhandedly dismisses that which does not fit in with their worldview... ?

Not very observant are you. I tend to let people have their say and very rarely, if at all, on the front foot with shooting people down.
It’s more response to people having a pop at me or, as pre ioysly stated, when the name calling started and I actually asked admin about that and had no response so thought it was an open thing!

 

[tek-monkey]

You say “we” like you speak for everybody! If you only knew how many read this without wanting the grief of dealing with your responses!
I’m so happy you know you’re always 100% correct due to your undoubtable research.

And of course you realise the same can be said of your own posts?


I've just had a quick scan back, not through all the hundreds of pages obviously, but through a fair few, and something is quite evident. The vast majority of people posting are either saying:

I have/had it and here is what I think of that
A person I know has/had it and here is what they thought of that
Here is some interesting news about it, lets discuss it
Here is what I found interesting/strange/wrong about what you posted, lets discuss it

Apart from you, you rarely discuss. You post stuff, you say hey look you were all wrong, and when someone tries to debate it you ignore them. Everybody else seems perfectly willing to look at the things posted and see what they say, then talk about them. You don't, people ask direct questions to you about things you've posted and you don't answer them. You only allow information to go one way, you consume but don't debate. You often respond on a personal level, but never to information, it's strange.

 

[SketchyMagpie]

No doubt there have been a few personal insults flung in GG's direction over the last few years (compared to a torrent of abuse in return) but what he doesn't grasp is that there is a difference between attacking the *information* and attacking the *person*.

For example, Gilbert, several pages back I said that you have a tendancy to mistake having disprovable sources as having "a different opinion". You responded by calling me a name.

See the difference...?

 

[tek-monkey]

No doubt there have been a few personal insults flung in GG's direction over the last few years but what he doesn't grasp is that there is a difference between attacking the *information* and attacking the *person*.

For example, Gilbert, several pages back I said that you have a tendancy to mistake having disprovable sources as having "a different opinion". You responded by calling me a name.

See the difference...?

Yeah, I think thats what it is TBH, an attack on the credibility of what he posts is taken as a personal attack because it's against his beliefs? A bit like telling a Christian you think God isn't real.

 

[gilbert grape]

The difference being, this is the only thread where I respond in such a way. The dozens of other threads I post on I think im as informative and respectful as any. Just this one…where I’ve had crap off people. As for me giving loads back! You have a very strange perception of reality!

 

[gilbert grape]

Meanwhile, you mock my behaviour while denying that dozens of doctors and scientists have turned to thousands in pointing out the story and evidence have changed and any data or videos that are posted are wrong. It’s your data, not the undoubted, precise data cos let’s face it, who knows what that actually is?
None of this is as simple as “a bat passed on a virus and it spread”.
Whatever was spread, we all have different immunity yet we’ve all been ordered to dance to one tune. Time has also proved that approach has not protected us properly or efficiently and ma y in power have got obscenely rich or not danced to the same tune.

 

[tek-monkey]

When a new highly contagious and sometimes fatal virus first appears and nobody knows yet how it works especially the immunity part, what do you think is the correct procedure to follow? We still don't fully understand it, we still don't know how to identify who is susceptible and who isn't, how do you propose we protected people at that stage?

As for the last bit, yeah we keep electing Conservatives, what do you expect? It doesn't validate any of the other stuff though, just proves how dumb voters in this country are.

 

[gilbert grape]

Are we going to have some threads for the other new mystery bugs cos peoples immunity is waning due to whatever they’ve been taking or doing? Or do we lump it all in and sympathise with people as new Covid sufferers?
And for those crass comments about me never caring or sympathising with those that were ill, grow up!

 

[tek-monkey]

Remember when I said you won't ever discuss? You posted something, I responded to it, but you never reply to actual questions.

 

[Withnail]

Answer honestly, Gilbert: do YOU go away and research what we tell you before reaching your conclusions that we're wrong, as we do when YOU post things, or is it in fact YOU that offhandedly dismisses that which does not fit in with their worldview... ?

Not very observant are you. I tend to let people have their say and very rarely, if at all, on the front foot with shooting people down.
It’s more response to people having a pop at me or, as pre ioysly stated, when the name calling started and I actually asked admin about that and had no response so thought it was an open thing!

Case in point -
Q: Do you read/watch the rebuttals to the arguments you yourself post?

(Bearing in mind that that person has read/watched what you have posted, taken time to formulate an argument to it, then spent time replying in full...)

A: It’s more response to people having a pop at me or, as pre ioysly stated, when the name calling started and I actually asked admin about that

Shall we take that as a no, then?

I have done* my own** research*** ™

*watched
**someone else's
***shitty YouTube video

 

[Theresa Green]

Egypt Inflation rate 50%
104 million people
The Army are the biggest suppliers of bread and concrete
Therefore
Carrefour
Car Ferry
Kerry
Gold
Alway believe in arseholes

 

[The Notorious A.N.T.]

I didn't think COVID-19 was a 'thing' any more but it has unfortunately managed to get me for the 2nd time!. Not felt nearly as rough this time around though.

 

[The Hawk]

I didn't think COVID-19 was a 'thing' any more but it has unfortunately managed to get me for the 2nd time!. Not felt nearly as rough this time around though.

I tested positive on Tuesday, as COVID finally got me. I'm well jabbed up and, so far, the symptoms have been mild.

See you on the other side.

 

[littleme]

Feel like I've got the Covid again, testing negative still but feel like death warmed up.

This time I HAVE to go to work or face further disciplinarys.... What has the world come to?

 

[littleme]

I tested positive on Tuesday, as COVID finally got me. I'm well jabbed up and, so far, the symptoms have been mild.

See you on the other side.

Hope you feel better soon, I was really ill when I got it for the first time at Christmas, feel the same again now, but negative still (I was for 3 days at the start last time).

 

[The Hawk]

Hope you feel better soon, I was really ill when I got it for the first time at Christmas, feel the same again now, but negative still (I was for 3 days at the start last time).

Day 7 for me today and a very faint positive line; hopefully, in the clear tomorrow.

I've gone through quite a few of the known symptoms, but all of them have been fairly mild.

I hope you feel better soon.

 

[staffordjas]

I felt quite rough for my first 2 bouts of it.
But wouldn't have known I'd got it back in September if I hadn't tested . Hubby had been really ill half way through the holiday and I was feeling the best I've ever felt (think I posted on here how good I was feeling for the first time in ages as I walked along the beach on my own ) . He tested positive when we got back home so I thought I'd do a check just incase. I was a strong positive as well for over a week but felt fine that time.

Hope you're clear today @The Hawk and you feel better soon @littleme

 

[SketchyMagpie]

How long after symptoms did it take for the positive to show up? I know it was 5-6 days a while back, just wondering as my parents both have something currently and are testing negative for Covid but I think it might be too early to presume it's not Covid.

Hope everyone currently with it is doing well.

 

[The Hawk]

How long after symptoms did it take for the positive to show up? I know it was 5-6 days a while back, just wondering as my parents both have something currently and are testing negative for Covid but I think it might be too early to presume it's not Covid.

Hope everyone currently with it is doing well.

Mine started as a very slight sore throat last Tuesday morning. A morning test returned a negative result, but a second test around 7pm the same day produced a fairly faint positive. So, no more than 10 or 11 hours from first noticeable symptoms to a positive test.