Coronavirus.

gilbert grape

gilbert grape

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Ahhh. Profiling!
Lots of isolation, remote meetings and trying to make a living while supporting others. Every day, counting what's left and how long that will last.
Broke, depressed and feeling more poisoned by the experience than anything, while also dealing with my own health issues. Yes, I played the game until I had enough! Listening to and watching so many people from inside healthcare, media and drug companies blowing the whistle on what was actually happening, before those views got deleted off most platforms, but using that information to further my own research.
And now, looking back on how we were actually controlled and harmed by the measures. The amount of restrictions some lived within while many of those making rules did not. The bi££ions handed out that won't be recouped and we will have to pay for while the rule makes turn the other cheek and make more private deals and use covid as an excuse!
There is and has been a virus and, as with any outbreak, there will be casualties. The figures, like using "within 28 days of a test" or the vulnerable being counted as caused by, when they could have unfortunately passed with or of what they had, with or without a virus.
I've lost family and friends during the last few years and, like many, I did not get chance to see or say goodbye.

The fact that I simply hold my views and some want to vilify me because I don't want to dance to their tune actually sickens me.
 
Withnail

Withnail

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gilbert grape said:
A bit like the false figures on actual covid and actual covid deaths, they'll pass it all off as something else. Younger people dropping dead, myocarditis and various damage will all be denied by people like yourselves because you deny any alternative view exists and call it all out as bullshit. It's like watching people march headlong off a cliff!
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I too can make a sentence stretch out toward something like a point as if we are getting somewhere without providing any punctuation along the way and bring it back toward some sort of end point as if we have made headway toward some sort of conclusion.
gilbert grape said:
They created consistent messaging to brainwash people and get them onside, per their own documents released on 23/03/2020.
They talk of their massive investment in the NHS but they dodge any questions on Nightingale Hospitals?
They talk about massive investment in the NHS but avoid questions about whose pockets it all went into?
They talk about helping the public and businesses with handouts but won't chase the billions that were part of a massive fraud?
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Who are 'they'? I mean it seems like quite a flippant point, but 'they' are who?

They trip the light fandango
They are the eggmen
They are the walrus
Are they the goo goo ga chew?
gilbert grape said:
The damage and eventual release of figures will be covered up so people like you will keep pointing the finger at an increasing number of people like me. It's all out there.
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It's all out there, 'they' just keep pulling it from you...
gilbert grape said:
You just don't want to see it and the media companies are so entrenched in government packets, the data gets pulled each time it appears.
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It's your fault that you don't understand, you just don't see it - media companies now live in 'government packets', they are totally a thing that exist in the real world, and that means that any data made available is 'pulled' so that you only get to not see it after it never appears.

Understanding any of this doesn't, apparently, mark you out as being entirely insane.
 
gilbert grape

gilbert grape

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Withnail said:
I too can make a sentence stretch out toward something like a point as if we are getting somewhere without providing any punctuation along the way and bring it back toward some sort of end point as if we have made headway toward some sort of conclusion.

Who are 'they'? I mean it seems like quite a flippant point, but 'they' are who?

They trip the light fandango
They are the eggmen
They are the walrus
Are they the goo goo ga chew?

It's all out there, 'they' just keep pulling it from you...

It's your fault that you don't understand, you just don't see it - media companies now live in 'government packets', they are totally a thing that exist in the real world, and that means that any data made available is 'pulled' so that you only get to not see it after it never appears.

Understanding any of this doesn't, apparently, mark you out as being entirely insane.
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Condescending post liked by idiots.
Well done.
Consistent.
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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littleme said:
I work in a supermarket (you all know which one) COVID levels amongst us is now at its highest.....anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. I managed the whole time untill Christmas just gone with out catching COVID.... Working with the great unwashed public who didn't want to adhere to our rules of masks/queues etc....and I'm sure it was down to our vaccines...,without the vaccines many of us would be dead... Apart from the NHS we were probably the next largest group to be in the frontline to contracting the virus. We had no choice but to go to work, and we took all the precautions we could. Now since November last year there has been a massive rise in cases of covid (In my workplace) & you know why........no-one wears a mask anymore, no one socially distances, it's a general free for all now.... I went to a cat show recently, it was horrifiying how everyone was mingling/touching & soooo close to each other...we had to leave (I made us leave) but all 3 of us were really uncomfortable with the proximity of other people.


@gilbert grape , you sir, are a FOOL. A fool of the highest command.
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I can't say for sure it was the vaccines, but we all avoided it for 3 whole years (or rather if we had it we never knew). Been a while since I had the last booster, all got it recently, none have fully recovered although my wife is by far the worst out of us. Just walking the dogs kills me at the moment!
 
littleme

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tek-monkey said:
I can't say for sure it was the vaccines, but we all avoided it for 3 whole years (or rather if we had it we never knew). Been a while since I had the last booster, all got it recently, none have fully recovered although my wife is by far the worst out of us. Just walking the dogs kills me at the moment!
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Yes, I managed that whole time, then got it at Christmas. I would have known if I'd had it before. The carer had it too at the same time, he was only posative for 5 days & had very mild symptoms. I was posative for over 2 weeks and horribly ill for a good week after, & I'm still suffering now.
 
joshua

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Covid jabs will be given to vulnerable BABIES for first time: Health chiefs recommend two Pfizer doses for 60,000 at-risk infants aged between 6 months and 4 years old
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...iefs-recommend-two-Pfizer-doses.html#comments​

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...iefs-recommend-two-Pfizer-doses.html#comments

Babies with underlying conditions will be offered a Covid vaccine, UK health chiefs confirmed today.
Around 60,000 infants aged six months to four years will be eligible for two Pfizer jabs.
They include children with poorly controlled asthma and issues affecting their heart, kidneys, liver or digestive system.
While Covid poses a small threat to the overwhelming majority of children, some are at risk of a more serious illness. Jabs are the 'best way to increase their protection', according to the Government's vaccine taskforce.
NHS sites will begin offering jabs in mid-June. Parents should wait to be contacted before coming forward, officials said.
NHS England has confirmed it will begin offering jabs to those eligible in England from mid-June



NHS England has confirmed it will begin offering jabs to those eligible in England from mid-June
Latest data from the UK Health Security Agency suggests that 51 under-fours have died within four weeks of a positive Covid test since the pandemic began



Latest data from the UK Health Security Agency suggests that 51 under-fours have died within four weeks of a positive Covid test since the pandemic began








Latest data from the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) suggests that 51 under-fours have died of Covid since the pandemic began.

Yet this toll includes anyone who has tested positive for the virus within four weeks of dying, so could be a slight overestimate.

In a report published today, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, which advises the Government on the jab rollout, said eligible youngsters should be offered two 3-microgram doses of Pfizer's Covid vaccine, at least eight weeks apart.

If a child has recently been infected with the virus, they should not be jabbed until at least four weeks later, it said.

Further advise on third doses of the low-dose formulation for those in the cohort who are immunosuppressed will be issue 'in due course', the JCVI said.

Healthy children in the age group are not currently eligible, it added.



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Professor Wei Shen Lim, chair of the JCVI's COVID-19 Committee, said: 'For the vast majority of infants and children, Covid causes only mild symptoms, or sometimes no symptoms.

'However, for a small group of children with pre-existing health conditions it can lead to more serious illness, and for them, vaccination is the best way to increase their protection.'

The JCVI's advice follows a review of Covid vaccine trials among children in the US, including safety data and monitoring the virus amongst youngsters in the UK.

Data suggests that at-risk children aged six months to four years are seven times more likely to be admitted to intensive care with severe Covid, it said.

But more than 90 per cent of the cohort have already been infected and admission rates 'have remained low', the report states.

More than 1million American children aged six months to four years have received at least one dose of Pfizer since June 2022.

Irritability, crying, sleepiness and fever are the most common side effects, while one to two per cent of children suffered a severe fever.

The UK's Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) gave a greenlight to the jab for the age group in December, ruling that it was safe and effective.

But the JCVI then provides advice on how it should be dished out.

Dr Mary Ramsay, head of immunisation at the UKHSA, said: 'Covid is still in circulation, with thousands of new cases reported every week.

'The extra protection offered by the vaccine could be important for young children in clinical risk groups, who are at greater risk of severe illness.

'The virus is not going away so I would encourage all parents to bring their child forward if they are eligible.

'Parents should wait to be contacted by their local health professionals.'

Health Secretary Steve Barclay said: 'Children are at very low risk of harm from Covid.

'However, there are a very small number of children with health conditions which make them particularly vulnerable, and for those children we want to give parents the choice as to whether they wish to vaccinate their at-risk child or not.

'I have accepted advice from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation on vaccinating children aged from six months to four years who are in a clinical risk group.

'It is a parental decision, and this advice is simply to enable parents of children with medical conditions to choose if they wish to have the protection.'
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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Neither of us have really recovered from covid, just walking the dogs kills me, but my wife is worse. The GP wants to get bloods off her now as apparently there is a link between gestational diabetes and covid resulting in proper diabetes? Not heard this one before, but obviously gestational puts you at higher risk anyway.
 
littleme

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tek-monkey said:
Neither of us have really recovered from covid, just walking the dogs kills me, but my wife is worse. The GP wants to get bloods off her now as apparently there is a link between gestational diabetes and covid resulting in proper diabetes? Not heard this one before, but obviously gestational puts you at higher risk anyway.
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Make sure she gets checked, diabetes is not fun, and I have type 2 (not as serious) not type one.
 
joshua

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The mind boggles: https://fullfact.org/online/emergen...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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Emergency alert test is not an ‘activation signal’ for a vaccine ‘pathogen’​


18 April 2023



What was claimed​


The emergency alert test is an “activation signal” to activate the “pathogen in the shot”.

Our verdict​


On Sunday 23 April, the emergency alert test will be broadcast by cell towers to any connected phones or tablets on 4G and 5G networks. There is no conceivable way by which this can interact with pathogens or vaccines, including the Covid-19 vaccines.

A post on Facebook claims: “MAKE SURE THAT YOUR EMERGENCY CALL ON YOUR M0BILE IS 0FF - ITS AN ACTIVATION SIGNAL TO ACTIVATE THE PATH0GEN IN THE SH0T [sic]”.
It then goes on to tell people to “switch off all emergency alerts immediately on all your phones”. Similar posts appear to make the same claim.
The claim seems to be referring to the Emergency Alerts government service, which will warn people via their phones or tablets if there’s a nearby “danger to life”, for example in the case of severe flooding, fire or extreme weather.
A UK-wide test is due to take place at 3pm on Sunday 23 April. An emergency alert test will appear as a message on certain electronic devices, and there will also be a sound and vibration for up to 10 seconds.
The posts we’ve seen making this claim on social media refer to activating “the pathogen in the shot”. This appears to be a reference to the Covid-19 vaccines—we’ve often seen the term “the shot” used this way on social media, although none of the posts directly specify that they relate to Covid-19 vaccines.
When an alert is triggered, all cell towers in the area concerned will broadcast the alert to connected devices, which can include mobiles and tablets connected to 4G and 5G networks. This signal won’t interact with older ‘non-smart’ phones.
Dr Al Edwards, associate professor in biomedical technology at the University of Reading, told Full Fact: “There is no mechanism known to physics or biology that could connect radio signals set by mobile phone data systems, to the biological or chemical materials found in vaccines.”
We’ve written previously about false claims that the Covid-19 vaccines contain microchips, or that getting one makes you detectable via Bluetooth or magnetic. We’ve also recently checked the false claim that 5G will activate a virus hidden in Covid vaccines.
Dr Edwards added that the Covid-19 vaccines don’t contain pathogens (disease-causing bacteria, viruses, fungi and parasites). The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine contains a weakened version of adenovirus, which can cause the common cold, but in the case of the vaccine this has been genetically changed so that it can’t cause infections in humans.
(The adenovirus used has also been engineered to make a specific coronavirus spike protein, so that if the body later encounters it on coronavirus, the immune system will be able to recognise and destroy it.)
There’s no way a signal from a cell tower could “activate” a pathogen or anything that was in the Covid-19, or any other, vaccine.
Dr Edwards said: “The exact composition of vaccines is documented on their packaging and rigorously checked by many independent bodies, and none of the ingredients can interact with radio waves.”
All of the ingredients for the Pfizer/BioNTech, Oxford/AstraZeneca and Moderna vaccines have been made publicly available.
We’ve fact checked a number of false claims about the emergency alerts test, including that it will breach GDPR and access personal data. Misinformation about the alert may lead to unnecessary alarm. In this case, it may cause people to opt out of receiving the alerts, as these posts encourage, based on false information.
The domestic abuse charity Refuge has released a video explaining exactly how to turn off the alerts, for those who may have secret or secondary phones hidden from an abusive partner, as the alert will make a sound even if a device is on silent.
The consumer magazine Which? has also warned that scammers may send similar looking messages around the same time. The exact text of the real government test message has been released, and will tell people they do not need to take any action. Which? warns that anything asking you to download an app, set something up or provide personal information may be a scam.
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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littleme said:
Very
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I mean, it's just such a stupid conspiracy theory, you'd have to have a rather low IQ indeed to get suckered in. They're basically saying all the world's governments are trying, at massive expense an effort, to kill all the compliant people and keep a nation of the disobedient. And to take it further, all jobs where staff were made to have jabs are ones they don't want in the new world.

Surely they'd make the vaccine the antidote and kill those they can't control?
 
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