Coronavirus.

littleme

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The problem with these 'journalistic' sites (and I'm being f****** polite to that trade on this one) is that they look for advertising above all else, go to the site and see for yourself.) To them, it's all about money. How can we frighten people and extract money in the process. Nothing else counts.

Journalism, I've shit it. (And on a minor scale I'll admit, I've done some trade in that business.)
It wasn't in the Mirror, but I can't remember where it was, I'm just disgusted to think that people have to be told to wash their hands with soap and water.....
 

BobClay

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Probably why I haven't taken a newspaper in what is now decades. They've long been the opinionated views of the proprietors (most of them Murdoch like shitheads.) I pretty much rely on the BBC for my news these days, after all, there isn't much else of choice. And I like to think there's still some honour in the BEEB, although I know Boris and his cronies are targeting that. Still, while it's going I'll watch it, left, right, middle of the road, they keep going for it, and despite its faults it's generally speaking tried to remain independent of government control, sometimes beyond the pale.

Good on em I say,

It'll be missed if Cummings/Boris have their way.
 

Noah

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as covid19 is a flu virus

Covid is not a flu virus. It is a coronavirus like SARS & MERS and they are not more prevalent in cold weather, the main MERS outbreak in Saudi Arabia occurred in temperatures of 40 degrees C. Influenza viruses are completely different and belong to the Orthomyxoviridae group of viruses.

availablity of a successful vaccine to Covid19 would be widely available to the public by February 2021 at the earliest

Until about 2005 the shortest time it took to develop a vaccine was 10 years. Since then two vaccines for Ebola have been produced and the development only took 5 years, however both are still regarded as experimental. Don't hold your breath.
 

proactive

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A 'corona virus' is any virus that effects the respiratory system. It is linked with flu due to pneumonia. The one virus that is most researched due to it being the highest risk for pandemic is Corona. This is the reason tests on people have already been able to begin as they have years of research already done should a new Corona virus start. The clue is partly in the title as it's not covid1. There are many strains of covid but this is higher risk and mortality due to the airborne spread and the main thing being that the pneumonia it creates is a sticky liquid on the lungs not a fluid one. The vaccine is coming but I fear it won't be here soon enough to prevent a lockdown in December. Let's hope I'm wrong.
It's called Covid19 because it was discovered in 2019.
 

Noah

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A 'corona virus' is any virus that effects the respiratory system. It is linked with flu due to pneumonia.

No, a corona virus is a specific type of RNA virus and named because of its shape, it is completely unrelated to the influenza viruses. Pneumonia is an inflammation of the lungs and with both covid 19 & influenza is usually a secondary bacterial infection.
 

Withnail

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Noah I live learning things so thank you :) do you happen to know how many Corona viruses there are to date? And is covid19 the only Corona virus that fills your lungs with treacle rather than fluid? ( And I must stress I do not want to sound sarcastic as it's not my style) and no my Google buttons not broke :)
There are at least four coronaviruses that are currently endemic, they account for something like 70-80% of what are called 'common' colds.

There is no vaccine developed against them, mainly because they don't kill anyone - even the most dire 'man-flu' tends to result in recovery... - and it makes sense to direct your fire at things that are actually probably definitely going to kill you. Sadly, the other reason is that it appears to be incredibly difficult to do - bear in mind that the 'common' cold is estimated to cost $$$ in lost productivity every year so it's not like it's entirely without economic worth to 'fix' it - so don't expect this one to be any easier than any of the others.

There have been some interesting developments very recently, but 'rushing things' in a pharmaceutical context means making it five years rather than ten - and 'it' might mean little more than a percentage lessening of probable outcomes in an ICU - this is not anything like a short-cut.

Tl;dr - don't get your hopes up too soon, but don't get rid of them altogether
 

Withnail

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Also, if you find yourself dealing with a metaphorical 'Kevin' - who failed GCSE Environmental Science, but is now telling you that you are somehow 'not doing your own research' -

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20061440v1

Here we describe an assay that allows direct detection and characterization of SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein (S)-reactive CD4+ T cells in peripheral blood...

I'd be intrigued to hear either a metaphorical Kevin, or Karen, rebuttal, based on his/her own research in this field.

Maybe there is an opportunity for our own Homeopaths to 'step up' to the plate?

No?
 

Noah

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do you happen to know how many Corona viruses there are to date

No. There are a large number which infect animals but I don't really know how many. There are, as @Withnaill says 4 which cause cold like symptoms. Since these were discovered there have been more coronavirus found in humans with names that trip off the tongue - SARS-CoV in 2003, HCoV NL63 in 2004, HCoV HKU1 in 2005, MERS-CoV in 2012, and SARS-CoV-2 in 2019. The nasty ones are SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 (causing SARS, MERS and Covid-19 respectively) all three cause inflamation and congestion of the lung.
The problem is that as humans increase the pressure on the environment they come into increasing contact with infected animals and the viruses get the opportunity to jump from animal to man. Not just coronavirus, think things like AIDS, Ebola etc.
 

littleme

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Had an email from minime's high school this morning, it looks like they have no plans to reopen school for years 10 & 12 in June (as long as the board of gouverners agree), attached also was a parent survey which the results will count toward the final decision.

Fingers crossed.
 
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That-Crazy-Rat-Lady

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Had an email from minime's high school this morning, it looks like they have no plans to reopen school for years 10 & 12 in June (as long as the board of gouverners agree), attached also was a parent survey which the results will count toward the final decision.

Fingers crossed.

Our school is only sending Yr10 in for English, Maths & Science on a half day and all other lessons online.

We're planning on the possibility of online lessons up until Christmas!
 

littleme

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Our school is only sending Yr10 in for English, Maths & Science on a half day and all other lessons online.

We're planning on the possibility of online lessons up until Christmas!
Good!
I think most high schools in Stafford will struggle if they do go back, so many students come in from surrounding villages on coaches, & I can't see how that could still happen.

Anyhow, I've voted that the school shouldn't have years 10 & 12 back before september, I thought minime would be furious, but it turns out she's changed her view now that it's imminent, and says she wouldn't feel safe.

Although, in the week, daughter-in-law (primary yr6 teacher) was going into her school to prepare the classrooms for years 5 & 6 to return to on 1st June.

Surely it should be the same across all years...
 

That-Crazy-Rat-Lady

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Good!
I think most high schools in Stafford will struggle if they do go back, so many students come in from surrounding villages on coaches, & I can't see how that could still happen.

Anyhow, I've voted that the school shouldn't have years 10 & 12 back before september, I thought minime would be furious, but it turns out she's changed her view now that it's imminent, and says she wouldn't feel safe.

Although, in the week, daughter-in-law (primary yr6 teacher) was going into her school to prepare the classrooms for years 5 & 6 to return to on 1st June.

Surely it should be the same across all years...

It seems to be at the disgression of each school - everyone seems to be making it up as they go along!

I heard the 'brilliant' news that our PPE order arrived today - not sure how excited I am about teaching with a face mask on?

How will the they know I'm frowning in disapproval??!
 
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