Coronavirus.

SketchyMagpie

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I probably don't need to even say this but Gilbert has once again shared some nonsense without verifying it first and, low and behold, it turns out to be bullshit. The response did not say (or imply) "if we told the public they would not want to get these vaccines", it was that the information contains "commercially sensitive information" and makes no mention of how the public might respond.


The funny thing is that the above scans of the response are provided by the exact same person who used the incorrect/misleading quote in the tweet that Gilbert shared, so is that person a liar or an idiot?

This may be the last breath I waste on you Gilbert, so I hope you enjoyed it.
 
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gilbert grape

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I probably don't need to even say this but Gilbert has once again shared some nonsense without verifying it first and, low and behold, it turns out to be bullshit. The response did not say (or imply) "if we told the public they would not want to get these vaccines", it was that the information contains "commercially sensitive information" and makes no mention of how the public might respond.


The funny thing is that the above scans of the response are provided by the exact same person who used the incorrect/misleading quote in the tweet that Gilbert shared, so is that person a liar or an idiot?

This may be the last breath I waste on you Gilbert, so I hope you enjoyed it.
Judging without thinking in 3d! Your bullshit speciality! Good to see you’re still perfecting the role of deluded idiot!
 

Raven

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Here we go! Muppet cavalry...Jog on, sunshine!
How dare you, you heretic !
Do you not know that “anyone” not accepting what we are told “must” be shouted down and to voice those concerns on an open forum ! :blah:
Thankfully the SF Clique will never allow that & will continue to throw abuse and scorn at anyone who pops their head above the parapet.
 

rudie111

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How dare you, you heretic !
Do you not know that “anyone” not accepting what we are told “must” be shouted down and to voice those concerns on an open forum ! :blah:
Thankfully the SF Clique will never allow that & will continue to throw abuse and scorn at anyone who pops their head above the parapet.
No one is saying that. We are just asking for a bit of proof to back up these claims
 

SketchyMagpie

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How dare you, you heretic !
Do you not know that “anyone” not accepting what we are told “must” be shouted down and to voice those concerns on an open forum ! :blah:
Thankfully the SF Clique will never allow that & will continue to throw abuse and scorn at anyone who pops their head above the parapet.
He posted a specific claim about what a thing said. It didn't say what he claimed it said. Does the truth of things hold no value to you?

I'm done with this stupid cyclical bullshit, onto ignore with the both of you.
 
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Thehooperman

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I don't understand why there can't be a honest discussion about what people's views are regarding Coronavirus backed up by facts where necessary.

Isn't that the point of a forum?

Every other thread seems to take a balanced view with people listening to others' points of view and voicing their own opinions so why not this one?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Usual pattern:

1) Someone tells GG a thing
2) GG repeats the thing
3) Someone fact checks the thing
4) Its bollox, so they call GG out on it
5) GG insults them

If GG tried doing step 3 himself before step 2 most of these posts wouldn't happen.
I missed 6, where Raven comes on to back up GG but never backs up the actual thing he said. I'm starting to wonder if it's Raven in step 1 tbh.
 

SketchyMagpie

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I don't understand why there can't be a honest discussion about what people's views are regarding Coronavirus backed up by facts where necessary.

Isn't that the point of a forum?

Every other thread seems to take a balanced view with people listening to others' points of view and voicing their own opinions so why not this one?
A conversation requires people on both sides to acknowledge the information that is being shared with them. I don't think that Gilbert has acknowledged a single data point that anyone has presented him with to date, other than to call whoever posted it a deluded idiot. It's impossible to have a discussion with a brick wall.
 
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gilbert grape

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And the one throwing abuse is @gilbert grape once again.
Do you realise, I never called anybody anything an even resisted responding to various names thrown my way for refusing to dance to one story?
I had then had enough and it seemed commonplace to be part of the clique, while calling people names, so I just started responding in kind.
If you can't take the heat... take a jab and put a mask on cos that fixes everything!
 

gilbert grape

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A conversation requires people on both sides to acknowledge the information that is being shared with them. I don't think that Gilbert has acknowledged a single data point that anyone has presented him with to date, other than to call whoever posted it a deluded idiot. It's impossible to have a discussion with a brick wall.
I'll come and have a fruit shoot with you next time I'm in RedRum. You should be easy to pick out!
 

Thehooperman

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Do you realise, I never called anybody anything an even resisted responding to various names thrown my way for refusing to dance to one story?
I had then had enough and it seemed commonplace to be part of the clique, while calling people names, so I just started responding in kind.
If you can't take the heat... take a jab and put a mask on cos that fixes everything!
So why do you appear to not want to engage in a reasonable discussion (emphasis being on the word discussion) about Coronavirus et al?

I am honestly and genuinely interested to hear all sides of a reasonably balanced discussion and in particular hear your views but I am struggling to see any facts behind what you are trying to say.
 

Thehooperman

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......If you can't take the heat... take a jab and put a mask on cos that fixes everything!
Oh and by the way I did wear a mask again last week and stayed in as much as I could, not for my benefit you understand but for yours because I suspected that I may be positive and I didn't want to infect others like your good self.

Hope this was ok with you.
 

gilbert grape

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So why do you appear to not want to engage in a reasonable discussion (emphasis being on the word discussion) about Coronavirus et al?

I am honestly and genuinely interested to hear all sides of a reasonably balanced discussion and in particular hear your views but I am struggling to see any facts behind what you are trying to say.
When I appeared on this thread at around page 290 or so, with a differing opinion, it was made very clear that other opinions were not welcome and it didn't take long for "nut job, idiot, moron" etc etc to pour forth. Numerous people on here actually know me and know I don't get drawn into such stupidity, but when it carries on you sometimes respond, in kind.
I've outlined my thoughts in plain English and only some were accepted. It always descends into "you're an idiot if you can;t post a link with a peer reviewed report" while the views I read on here might as well have been taken off the BBC news!
 

Raven

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He posted a specific claim about what a thing said. It didn't say what he claimed it said. Does the truth of things hold no value to you?

I'm done with this stupid cyclical bullshit, onto ignore with the both of you.
See you edited out your abusive reply then ?
 
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