Coronavirus.

SketchyMagpie

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There is nothing in that clip of Bill that anyone who has been following the vaccine science did not know one or two years ago (ie that the vaccines don't stop you getting it, they protect you from the worst of the illness and that the antibodies die off after several months hence the need for boosters). I'm fairly sure we have told you as much at various points in the time.

He is not saying that the vaccines "were not the solution", he's discussing the ways in which they can be improved in relation to future outbreaks of all varieties.

Do you not think it would be more suspicious if he was out there saying "Oh no, the vaccines are FLAWLESS, there's absolutely no way in which they could be made to perform better".....?
 
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gilbert grape

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There is nothing in that clip of Bill that anyone who has been following the vaccine science did not know one or two years ago (ie that the vaccines don't stop you getting it, they protect you from the worst of the illness and that the antibodies die off after several months hence the need for boosters). I'm fairly sure we have told you as much at various points in the time.

He is not saying that the vaccines "were not the solution", he's discussing the ways in which they can be improved in relation to future outbreaks of all varieties.

Do you not think it would be more suspicious if he was out there saying "Oh no, the vaccines are FLAWLESS, there's absolutely no way in which they could be made to perform better".....?
“We have told you”?
Like some confirmed higher level!! You are unbelievable! You keep ignoring the FACT that there are thousands and thousands of health professionals and medical staff that haven’t bought into it all, had to campaign against losing their jobs and keep speaking out.
I wonder what the next big Bullshit story will be to knock the vaccine evidence release off the top spot? It’ll have to be a big one!
Regarding your last comment on vaccines not being flawless, they were sold to us on the fact they virtually were and would be our answer!
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
“We have told you”?
Like some confirmed higher level!! You are unbelievable! You keep ignoring the FACT that there are thousands and thousands of health professionals and medical staff that haven’t bought into it all, had to campaign against losing their jobs and keep speaking out.
I wonder what the next big Bullshit story will be to knock the vaccine evidence release off the top spot? It’ll have to be a big one!
Regarding your last comment on vaccines not being flawless, they were sold to us on the fact they virtually were and would be our answer!
So yet again someone has taken the time to watch some of the drivel you share, has come back to you to say they don't think it said what you thought it did and has given you details of what they thought it said. And what do you so? Ignore every single point made and go off on another tangent as if something else validates the nonsense you first spouted.

Others have continuously taken the time to look at your utter crap, they have digested the information, and they have come back with legitimate questions about it, yet every single time you completely ignore absolutely everything you don't want to hear only to then accuse us of doing that to you. That is why nobody takes you seriously, whats the point when communication with you is one way? You act just like a bot, it's like you just repost whatever you're told but never engage in it again.
 

SketchyMagpie

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You keep ignoring the FACT that there are thousands and thousands of health professionals and medical staff that haven’t bought into it all, had to campaign against losing their jobs and keep speaking out.
I'm not ignoring it, it's that you're talking about a tiny minority.

There are 1,225,470 people working full-time in the NHS, as of last year.

Let's be kind and say that 17,000 of them have spoken out about Covid, even though it has been established that this number you introduced into the conversation is nonsense (https://www.staffordforum.com/xf/index.php?threads/coronavirus.20169/page-378#post-468046).

You claim that you answer questions, so answer this one:

If it's a numbers game and I'm supposed to be swayed by 17,000 people saying one thing, why are you not swayed by the 1,208,470 people (that's more than 1.2 MILLION) who are not a part of those movements?

You've come here to tell us that 98.61% of the workforce have not spoken out about Covid and we're supposed to be swayed in the opposite direction....?!
 
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SketchyMagpie

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Obviously I am ignoring the fact that some of those people in the majority of NHS workers will have simply not spoken out yet but, given that you're ignoring the fact that many of the "truther" movements do not even attempt to verify the credentials of "NHS workers" who sign their forms and become counted as "speaking out", I think that's even stevens.
 

The Hawk

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I think, for those of you still trying to engage with GG, this may be useful.
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gilbert grape

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If I'm making ridiculous claims show me where you've answered the question.
Which one? The questions fired each time I’ve responded? The pattern seems to be that I don’t give the answer that fits what you want so you tell me I haven’t answered!
You’re all forgetting what you’re debating!
You’re all stuck in 2020. I’m moving on with the changing story. At least I’ll be ready to confront the next outbreak rather than caving in like a brainwashed muppet.

Next up - Marburg outbreak.
Imposing licensing restrictions on all keepers of birds.
15 minute cities that they’ve already admitted giving false results on.
Pfizer reports that will be miraculously lost under more cover up stories.
But don’t worry. None of its linked!!
 

DoggedWalker

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Which one? The questions fired each time I’ve responded? The pattern seems to be that I don’t give the answer that fits what you want so you tell me I haven’t answered!
You’re all forgetting what you’re debating!
You’re all stuck in 2020. I’m moving on with the changing story. At least I’ll be ready to confront the next outbreak rather than caving in like a brainwashed muppet.

Next up - Marburg outbreak.
Imposing licensing restrictions on all keepers of birds.
15 minute cities that they’ve already admitted giving false results on.
Pfizer reports that will be miraculously lost under more cover up stories.
But don’t worry. None of its linked!!
Flatearther
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Which one? The questions fired each time I’ve responded? The pattern seems to be that I don’t give the answer that fits what you want so you tell me I haven’t answered!
You’re all forgetting what you’re debating!
You’re all stuck in 2020. I’m moving on with the changing story. At least I’ll be ready to confront the next outbreak rather than caving in like a brainwashed muppet.

Next up - Marburg outbreak.
Imposing licensing restrictions on all keepers of birds.
15 minute cities that they’ve already admitted giving false results on.
Pfizer reports that will be miraculously lost under more cover up stories.
But don’t worry. None of its linked!!
Ignore the questions
Fake outrage that people think you've ignored the questions
Go off on mad tangent as if something completely different validates previous statements

Yup, standard response pattern confirmed!

Did you vote leave?
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
Ignore the questions
Fake outrage that people think you've ignored the questions
Go off on mad tangent as if something completely different validates previous statements

Yup, standard response pattern confirmed!

Did you vote leave?
Answering peoples specific loaded questions or addressing what's actually happening? Hmmm which shall I do?
You all seem happily entrenched in right v left, believers v non believers, vaxxed or anti vaxxed. No in between or common sense. If there isn't a link attached you can;t accept it, so I'd guess quite a few of you are towards one end of the spectrum and find it hard to understand or trust explanation. If that's the case, that's fine. Just stop beating me around the head with it!
The story is different March 2023 than it was in March 2020 and it'll change by the end of this year and I'd put my house on it that I won;t get any apologies!
 

PeterD

ST16 Represent.
Which one? The questions fired each time I’ve responded? The pattern seems to be that I don’t give the answer that fits what you want so you tell me I haven’t answered!
You’re all forgetting what you’re debating!
You’re all stuck in 2020. I’m moving on with the changing story. At least I’ll be ready to confront the next outbreak rather than caving in like a brainwashed muppet.

Next up - Marburg outbreak.
Imposing licensing restrictions on all keepers of birds.
15 minute cities that they’ve already admitted giving false results on.
Pfizer reports that will be miraculously lost under more cover up stories.
But don’t worry. None of its linked!!
This is all crank adjacent waffling, a crank picks up on one thing and then goes down the rabbit hole of crankery.
 

gilbert grape

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Ps
PPs
It's like deja vu, if you just keep asking questions I've answered with my POV over a period.
There has been a virus in circulation.
I believe this was man made under lab conditions and it was let out or escaped.
I believe this has been jumped on, almost like they were prepared to maximise every life reducing and profit maximising opportunity.
Gates, Fauci et al have all got obscenely rich and famous off the back of it, whilst manipulating us and changing their own "instructions to the masses".
The above leads us to the jabs and the damage they have and will cause (yes I had the first 3!) and what news does come out will be conveniently diverted from those that need protecting from themselves.
Conspiracy theorists have been proved correct with increasing regularity on SOME matters.

If you can't see any of this, I guess you've been living under a rock.
 
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