Dry January.

[Bob]

I drink too much, I’m not pouring vodka on my cornflakes or anything but I do look forward to a glass or two of wine on too many evenings for it to be good for me (especially after Christmas) it’s likely that my liver will thank me for a month off!

January is a crap month, especially after a little over indulgence it makes sense to me to have a bit of a break. Last time I set up a go fund me and raised £95 for Katherine house, this time I’m just going to do it for me.

 

[Mudgie]

Oh yeah, for sure, it definitely isn't the best way to go about reducing your alcohol intake.

Really the best outcome would be for people to embrace the growing range of zero alcohol drinks if they're going to do it so they can still go out and support pubs etc. I had a few cans of Beavertown's Lazer Crush over Christmas, found that quite satisfying... I swear my stupid brain even thinks I'm getting tipsy if I have couple of them.

If proper beer is drunk in moderation, as I do, there's no need for zero alcohol drinks.

 

[Mudgie]

I drink too much, I’m not pouring vodka on my cornflakes or anything but I do look forward to a glass or two of wine on too many evenings for it to be good for me (especially after Christmas) it’s likely that my liver will thank me for a month off!

January is a crap month, especially after a little over indulgence it makes sense to me to have a bit of a break. Last time I set up a go fund me and raised £95 for Katherine house, this time I’m just going to do it for me.

Pouring too much is a risk of drinking at home.
January is a crap month made tolerable by the occasional visit to a proper pub for some decent beer

 

[basil]

Resolution: not to drink anymore next year.....
..however I'm not going to drink any less....

 

[Lucy]

If proper beer is drunk in moderation, as I do, there's no need for zero alcohol drinks.

You are so out of touch.

 

[Mudgie]

You are so out of touch.

Drinking in moderation doesn't cause problems. Drinking to excess does.
How is that so out of touch ?

 

[SketchyMagpie]

If proper beer is drunk in moderation, as I do, there's no need for zero alcohol drinks.

What a load of selfish old tosh.

I can't drink alcohol comfortably anymore because I have a stomach condition that it irritates. I had to stop taking medication as I was on it for as long as was deemed safe. I used to be able to manage four or five pints before it caused any problems, now even one gives me a day or two of suffering. But low and behold, take the alcohol out and I can enjoy the same tastes I normally would have when going for a drink with no problem.

That's just my personal circumstances, there will be many more. Still think there is "no need for zero alcohol drinks"?

That's the beer equivelant of idiots complaining when Greggs add a meat-free option and just as thick.

 

[SketchyMagpie]

(note: I removed a reference to a friend in the above post because I realised it might reveal some personal info about him if anyone we know recognises me on here)

 

[Mudgie]

What a load of selfish old tosh.

I can't drink alcohol comfortably anymore because I have a stomach condition that it irritates. I had to stop taking medication as I was on it for as long as was deemed safe. I used to be able to manage four or five pints before it caused any problems, now even one gives me a day or two of suffering. But low and behold, take the alcohol out and I can enjoy the same tastes I normally would have when going for a drink with no problem.

That's just my personal circumstances, there will be many more. Still think there is "no need for zero alcohol drinks"?

That's the beer equivelant of idiots complaining when Greggs add a meat-free option and just as thick.

I was commenting generally any don't deny that there are people who avoid alcohol for medical, religious or other reasons, just as others have valid reasons for avoiding Greggs's sausage rolls.
I accept that "there's no need for zero alcohol drinks" was an unfortunate choice of words, especially as I've always very much been in favour of choice. I myself drink more tap water than anything else, start the day with a proper black coffee - both zero alcohol drinks - and this year have averaged less than two days a week drinking beer. If I 'drank' at home during the days when I didn't visit a pub or two my alcohol consumption might be considered excessive.
I suggested that "drinking in moderation doesn't cause problems". "Moderation is true temperance" and I wouldn't argue with the Temperance movement of early last century which advocated drinking no more than two pints of beer, which was stronger before the first World War, a day. I suggested that "drinking to excess does" cause problems and that's what happened in Ebbw Vale early last century when miners 'saved' their temperate two pints a day until the weekend, got drunk, caused trouble and prompted the prohibition movement, and we all know what a success that wasn't in America a generation later. .

 

[Mudgie]

Oh yeah, for sure, it definitely isn't the best way to go about reducing your alcohol intake.

Really the best outcome would be for people to embrace the growing range of zero alcohol drinks if they're going to do it so they can still go out and support pubs etc. I had a few cans of Beavertown's Lazer Crush over Christmas, found that quite satisfying... I swear my stupid brain even thinks I'm getting tipsy if I have couple of them.

What "definitely isn't the best way to go about reducing your alcohol intake ?
I'm not arguing against pubs offering a range of zero alcohol drinks. Me choosing not to drink them obviously doesn't mean others shouldn't.

 

[SketchyMagpie]

What "definitely isn't the best way to go about reducing your alcohol intake ?
I'm not arguing against pubs offering a range of zero alcohol drinks. Me choosing not to drink them obviously doesn't mean others shouldn't.

Dry January.
ie going cold turkey for a month and then resuming usual drinking habits for the rest of the year.

I wasn't going to get back on the zero alcohol thing because I thought you had elaborated enough in the previous reply but you did literally say "there is no need for zero alcohol drinks" and then doubled down on it when Lucy challenged you. I understand your POV better now after what followed but we can only respond to what you put in front of us.

 

[Mudgie]

Dry January.
ie going cold turkey for a month and then resuming usual drinking habits for the rest of the year.

I wasn't going to get back on the zero alcohol thing because I thought you had elaborated enough in the previous reply but you did literally say "there is no need for zero alcohol drinks" and then doubled down on it when Lucy challenged you. I understand your POV better now after what followed but we can only respond to what you put in front of us.

I have never thought that "going cold turkey for a month and then resuming usual drinking habits for the rest of the year" is a good idea and don't think I inadvertently suggested that.
I repeat that I accept that "there's no need for zero alcohol drinks" was an unfortunate choice of words, especially as I've always very much been in favour of choice. What I meant with "if proper beer is drunk in moderation, as I do, there's no need for zero alcohol drinks" was that there's not likely to be much need for zero alcohol drinks for those who have always drunk in moderation.

 

[SketchyMagpie]

I have never thought that "going cold turkey for a month and then resuming usual drinking habits for the rest of the year" is a good idea and don't think I inadvertently suggested that.

I know you didn't... I was agreeing with you!

I was reinforcing what you had said in the post I was replying to, ie, that going cold turkey for a month is not really going to help people who have a real drink problem.

 

[Mudgie]

I know you didn't... I was agreeing with you!

I was reinforcing what you had said in the post I was replying to, ie, that going cold turkey for a month is not really going to help people who have a real drink problem.

Sorry, I was getting confused by then.

 

[Bob]

Crikey….

I didn’t realise it would be such a sensitive issue!

 

[proactive]

Crikey….

I didn’t realise it would be such a sensitive issue!

It isn't. It's just that @Mudgie likes to make a song and dance about everything, seeing as he has no ability to relate to anyone other than himself and the world of 'pubmen'.

 

[basil]

 

[Noah]

People's metabolism & reactions to alcohol are highly variable and at least partly due to genetics. Ability to tolerate it and reactions to it differ greatly. Take two people once I knew. Man ran a small construction company and was highly hands on, at the end of the day he would often go down the pub to replenish fluid lost and energy burnt, he might drink 5 or 6 pints but if he couldn't get down the pub, too bad there was always another day. Woman, late middle age only ever drank a small glass of sherry, but if she couldn't get it her word fell apart, hysterics, screaming and shouting, virtually raving. So which of them had an alcohol problem?
? Alcohol is alcohol, reactions to it are largely genetic, some people are fine, some shouldn't be allowed near it, and some who would normally be ok develop health problems which directly or because of prescribed medicines, mean they consumption of alcohol has to be very limited.

 

[Glam]

Too much alcohol consumption in younger years can cause a lot of drink related problems in later life. Such as Wernicke’s encephalopathy, Korsakoff’s syndrome and alcoholic dementia.
''It won't happen to me!!!'' No-one knows who it will affect. And it isn't a barrel of laughs for those of us that have to help nurse them patients with the above^^.

 

[Theresa Green]

Is Tizer safe?