Electric cars.

tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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Gramaisc said:
"They" are capable of doing anything that the technology available allows "them" to do.

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Energy firms remotely swap homes to prepay meters

The regulator said some "vulnerable customers had been left without power for days or even weeks".
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Was saying this about the whole don't pay campaign, best way to screw yourself over and help the energy firms in the long run.

In every instance I've seen though the customer was not just in debt but the debt was climbing, it's actually classed as a responsible measure to try to stop the customer getting into more debt. I'm not really sure what the answer is, but am positive it's not use taxpayer money to ensure oil companies can record extreme profits yet thats the course our country has chosen!
 
Gramaisc

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tek-monkey said:
Was saying this about the whole don't pay campaign, best way to screw yourself over and help the energy firms in the long run.

In every instance I've seen though the customer was not just in debt but the debt was climbing, it's actually classed as a responsible measure to try to stop the customer getting into more debt. I'm not really sure what the answer is, but am positive it's not use taxpayer money to ensure oil companies can record extreme profits yet thats the course our country has chosen!
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Individual cases are rarely black and white, though some may be very dark grey. It was more about the fact that, once 'they' have the means to enact a decision, 'they' are likely to use it for 'their' benefit.

If selecting car charging periods was to become possible for them, you could imagine them not taking much notice of people working nights who might want to charge at home in the daytime, for example.

People could make decisions based on circumstances that can be changed outside their control.
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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Gramaisc said:
Individual cases are rarely black and white, though some may be very dark grey. It was more about the fact that, once 'they' have the means to enact a decision, 'they' are likely to use it for 'their' benefit.

If selecting car charging periods was to become possible for them, you could imagine them not taking much notice of people working nights who might want to charge at home in the daytime, for example.

People could make decisions based on circumstances that can be changed outside their control.
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I'd imagine most wouldn't use the car charger that allowed this, unless they offered an incentive. Octopus for example have an interesting scheme where you tell them when you need the car by and they handle when it charges, they promise it will be charged when you need but not when it will happen:

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This gives you more cheap electricity to charge it than other tariffs, so you always pay less. Obviously this does mean they can also stop it charging, so T&Cs would need to be checked. They do have an override so you can force charge whenever you want.
 
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tek-monkey said:
I'd imagine most wouldn't use the car charger that allowed this, unless they offered an incentive. Octopus for example have an interesting scheme where you tell them when you need the car by and they handle when it charges, they promise it will be charged when you need but not when it will happen:

Intelligent Octopus Go

The UK's most awarded energy supplier. We're doing energy better - for you and the environment.
octopus.energy octopus.energy

This gives you more cheap electricity to charge it than other tariffs, so you always pay less. Obviously this does mean they can also stop it charging, so T&Cs would need to be checked. They do have an override so you can force charge whenever you want.
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It's what we use but I programmed the cars to start and stop the charge, not Octopus. Amounts to the same in the end but avoid Octopus 'forgetting to charge for whatever reason.
 
kyoto49

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What would happen to people on long journeys who have stopped at a charger hoping to get quickly on their way? Assume these may well be covered and you'd be stuck?
 
Cue

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Gramaisc said:
Individual cases are rarely black and white, though some may be very dark grey. It was more about the fact that, once 'they' have the means to enact a decision, 'they' are likely to use it for 'their' benefit.

If selecting car charging periods was to become possible for them, you could imagine them not taking much notice of people working nights who might want to charge at home in the daytime, for example.

People could make decisions based on circumstances that can be changed outside their control.
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It’s already possible, the charger grant required that you pick from certified “smart” chargers specifically to enable this capability

Actually doing it though? That’d be a bold move.
 
Gramaisc

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Cue said:
It’s already possible, the charger grant required that you pick from certified “smart” chargers specifically to enable this capability

Actually doing it though? That’d be a bold move.
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Mmm, you might get some shouting from some of the affected people, but most people would not get very bothered about it, if it didn't affect them.

Just wait for it to blow over and become normal.

It's worked for lots of other things - pension ages, etc...
 
proactive

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Cue said:
It’s already possible, the charger grant required that you pick from certified “smart” chargers specifically to enable this capability

Actually doing it though? That’d be a bold move.
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That's why I never applied for a grant. Short term gain, possible long term pain.
 
GNM67

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Not quite Stafford but the EV chargers on festival park are currently free.
Only 3 of the 6 are working but because they aren't connected to the Pod point app (waiting to be fixed) the free 15 minutes doesn't stop so you can get a full charge.
 
proactive

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
GNM67 said:
Not quite Stafford but the EV chargers on festival park are currently free.
Only 3 of the 6 are working but because they aren't connected to the Pod point app (waiting to be fixed) the free 15 minutes doesn't stop so you can get a full charge.
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Just a shame you have to go to Festival Park to reap the benefit.
 
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