Kemley House Plans.

gilbert grape

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Right in the edge of Castletown. Houses built for rail workers. Near the railway, locomotive works and factories!!
So, if this development can't take place for the stated reasons, rather than it being -
1. An eyesore
2. Becoming too high and overbearing on the area
3. Using land that would be better suited as a lower level building, rebuilt as a hotel or flattening it and making it a central EV park.......
what happens with the development on the castlefields side? Too noisy? Too close to the line? Nahhhh, money talks if it's the right money!
I just wonder if the mooted £120m for the town includes that redevelopment? .
 

Tumble weed

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Right in the edge of Castletown. Houses built for rail workers. Near the railway, locomotive works and factories!!
So, if this development can't take place for the stated reasons, rather than it being -
1. An eyesore
2. Becoming too high and overbearing on the area
3. Using land that would be better suited as a lower level building, rebuilt as a hotel or flattening it and making it a central EV park.......
what happens with the development on the castlefields side? Too noisy? Too close to the line? Nahhhh, money talks if it's the right money!
I just wonder if the mooted £120m for the town includes that redevelopment? .
I was thinking the same, seems like quite a u-turn from it'll be fine, carry on to no chance for a laughable reason.

They weren't even concerned about the extra two stories, so I wonder why the sudden change ?
 

markpa12003

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Plans have been rejected for a change to residential use, after initially saying it was ok, on the grounds that it'd be too close to the railway station and car garage so the noise would be unacceptable for the residents.

Even though, there's residential units directly behind it ? :strange::shifty:

I assume based on those 'stupid reasons' which can be easily challenged at appeal that the decision to refuse this application was made by the planning committee.

I'm glad the planning application has been refused but it could / should have been refused on better reasons than those quoted and ones that can be defended by the council if it goes to appeal. If I was the developer I would appeal the decision (based on those reasons for refusal) and go for costs.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Plans have been rejected for a change to residential use, after initially saying it was ok, on the grounds that it'd be too close to the railway station and car garage so the noise would be unacceptable for the residents.

Even though, there's residential units directly behind it ? :strange::shifty:
On those grounds they admit the car garage should have never been allowed then? Can we tear that down, maybe build a hotel and a pub?
 

Tumble weed

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Thing is the extra two story hearing is still going ahead, and the decision is due in a few months.

I don't see why the developer is still pursuing that, if they already seem to have fell out with the council.
 

Theresa Green

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Marchington Properties director is called James Bean

Rock on

Jimmy Bean

And where do we go from here?
Which is a way that's clear?
Still looking for that blue-jean baby-queen
Prettiest girl I've ever seen
See her shake on the movie screen
Jimmy Bean
 

markpa12003

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Thing is the extra two story hearing is still going ahead, and the decision is due in a few months.

I don't see why the developer is still pursuing that, if they already seem to have fell out with the council.

Hearing? Is that an informal hearing? Did the council refuse a previous application at this site, which the developer appealed and opted for an 'informal hearing'. (3 appeal methods).

Based on that the developer did something known as 'twin tracking' which councils / government have tried to stop.
 

Mudgie

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Apparently you can't go more than 3.5m higher than the highest point in the street for a terrace, or your neighbour for a semi. You also can't block light though, surely every upwards extension will block somebodies light?

https://urbanistarchitecture.co.uk/extending-houses-upwards/
A bit more than 3½ metres methinks at 82 Portland Street, next door to the Grey Horses, two doors from the Circus Tavern and four doors away from the new Old Monkey, three of my favourite Manchester pubs.
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Mudgie

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When are we going to start talking about 1970's pubs ..... ? :P
Being as you've mentioned it you've reminded me of the Oxnoble pub in Manchester, much older than 1970s and one of few named after a potato, where Whitbread did an extensive refurbishment that quite soon resulted in the bar falling into the cellar.
 

Noah

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Whitbread did an extensive refurbishment that quite soon resulted in the bar falling into the cellar.

Whitbread Luton were fairly notorious for the disastrous results of some of there attempts at pub refurbishment.
 
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