Planning in Stafford good or bad ?

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With the Town becoming bigger , houses being built left right and centre , is our borough council doing its job ? Developers Developing saying the need is xyz a huge car park and a ready facility smack bang in Stafford shiny and good to go but still empty any others you agree disagree on ? This post can apply to both Borough and County !
 

Withnail

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The Kettle Hat has remained the cornerstone of cranial protection, essentially unchanged, over c.800 years of its history.

Its enduring qualities are
  • it protects your head
  • it can be used, as its name suggests, as a receptacle in which to 'brew up'
  • it functions as an admirable 'chamber pot' when not being used as above
The phrase 'keep it under your hat' - ie keep something secret - is almost certainly derived from the practice of English archers to keep their bow strings dry by keeping them protected from the elements. The most obvious way to do this was to keep them under their hats.

I'm not entirely sure if this in any way brings the debate any further.
 

Gareth

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Stoke on Trent whatever....why do you think the county got rid of them. You really need to spend time in Stoke to realise what disarray they are in, well the council is anyway. Not even a worthwhile housing plan.

Anyway, bar the previous response all posts on here have been valid.

personally I think it is ok. Not really should I entirely agree with the requirement of the number of houses...but this is also not scc or sbc stipulation either.

I think those that have been are right and those not passed also right....for the most part.

investment is also coming to the town. We have new shopping developments, Redhill is taking off, Beacon Barracks has been as success, the extension and investment continues near the uni and the Chinese investors will soon be taking over control of the uni.

Station has been done up internally and are fantastic Victoria Park is about to get an enhanced makeover.

The western access has been needed for a long time.

there is always more that can be done
 

Gareth

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You also have to realise the investment this brings, as many town and cities (I.e. Stoke) are not getting anything.

The investment brings jobs and security and money into the local economy. ...people tend to forget that.

if such plans and investment were not forthcoming we would certainly be moaning our councils have no plan.

Most people are clued up and like will like a good moan when councils don't get it right, but I also like to give credit where it is due
 

finnback

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You also have to realise the investment this brings, as many town and cities (I.e. Stoke) are not getting anything.

The investment brings jobs and security and money into the local economy. ...people tend to forget that.

if such plans and investment were not forthcoming we would certainly be moaning our councils have no plan.

Most people are clued up and like will like a good moan when councils don't get it right, but I also like to give credit where it is due


Is this strictly true?
I know its the line used by the county council in particular when justifying building new industrial estates on the edge of town
If you've lived in Stafford for say 30-40 years is YOUR town better than it was. Is your daily life better because loads more people live in/around and work in/around the town. I'm not so sure but stand to be corrected.


The Borough Council IMHO are in the same league as the MET police. They should be disbanded and someone should start again. (big house builders and serial killers may disagree with that comment) :strange:
 

proactive

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The Kettle Hat has remained the cornerstone of cranial protection, essentially unchanged, over c.800 years of its history.

Its enduring qualities are
  • it protects your head
  • it can be used, as its name suggests, as a receptacle in which to 'brew up'
  • it functions as an admirable 'chamber pot' when not being used as above
The phrase 'keep it under your hat' - ie keep something secret - is almost certainly derived from the practice of English archers to keep their bow strings dry by keeping them protected from the elements. The most obvious way to do this was to keep them under their hats.

I'm not entirely sure if this in any way brings the debate any further.
Oh, his avatar is of a hat! I hadn't realised. I thought it was a bell and wondered where the end was.
 

Gareth

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It must be catching this going off topic thingy did I say stoke is the county town really how dare I , Can we keep to the subject Eh?

Is this strictly true?
I know its the line used by the county council in particular when justifying building new industrial estates on the edge of town
If you've lived in Stafford for say 30-40 years is YOUR town better than it was. Is your daily life better because loads more people live in/around and work in/around the town. I'm not so sure but stand to be corrected.


The Borough Council IMHO are in the same league as the MET police. They should be disbanded and someone should start again. (big house builders and serial killers may disagree with that comment) :strange:

well the question was about planning right or wrong, not quality of life which is variable from decade to decade which cost living has the biggest bearing if daily life is better.

the other thing to consider is the influence of central government who lean on councils when it comes to plans especially with housing. If councils don't desingnatr land for development the government will do it for and it is open season for any developer to build anywhere they like
 

Gareth

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With regards to industrial, well what do the local population want. Do we shirk employment opportunities and expansion in the area ???

Bearing in mind how many times posters on here talk about times gone by and the loss of the shoes industry, shrinking of GEC and universal types.

At least for the most part those companies still exist or former brownfield land has been developed.

You go to larger industrial towns or cities locally (black country or stoke) many former sites stand derelict and wasting away you hardly turn a corner without being presented with a ruin from the past in these areas unfortunately.
 

gilesjuk

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Stafford roads are nightmare. They keep adding more lights, roundabouts and don't add more roads. There seems to be a never ending amount of water, electric and phone upgrades, construction traffic etc.

Here's a few ideas. The lane from A34 to Wolverhampton road (Acton Hill Road) needs widening or a new road building.

A link road between Newport Road and Wolverhampton Road that isn't covered in speed bumps.
 

Gareth

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Were the speed humps on Westway added in reaction to local public concerns ???

Why should Acton Hill Road be widened, wouldn't this be a waste of public money that would be better spent elsewhere?

after all it is a countryside road, many drivers who do well over the limit down on that route.

with a few houses there and a number of trees not sure some on this forum would be happy :)
 
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