Proposal for new houses in Walton on the Hill.

[littleme]

Down my road almost all the houses around me are owned by single people. It only occurred to me the other day.

@Just little old me:)

Also, it's not 3x salary any more it's more.....at least 4.5 x

 

[gilesjuk]

Down my road almost all the houses around me are owned by single people. It only occurred to me the other day.

That's my situation but I need room for dogs and all my hobbies

 

[Gramaisc]

Household occupancy has been dropping, most of the time, for the last few decades.

 

[gilesjuk]

How does that relate to divorces? that's a big driver, people splitting up.

 

[Gramaisc]

How does that relate to divorces? that's a big driver, people splitting up.

There are lots of reasons, longevity, widowhood, divorce, smaller dwellings, etc...

 

[Noah]

Plans include 9 bungalows, unusual nowadays. Of course it's mainly senile delinquents & trouble making disabled people who go for bungalows

 

[littleme]

Plans include 9 bungalows, unusual nowadays. Of course it's mainly senile delinquents & trouble making disabled people who go for bungalows

Bloody hooligans.

I'd love a bungalow

 

[Just little old me:)]

Household occupancy has been dropping, most of the time, for the last few decades.

So if I'm reading that right the average household size is still 2?

 

[Just little old me:)]

How does that relate to divorces? that's a big driver, people splitting up.

Could also be a boom in youngsters getting their first property on their own? After all it's not just about breakdowns it's also about the younger generation achieving more that their elders

 

[Gramaisc]

So if I'm reading that right the average household size is still 2?

I'm not sure what's happened in the last decade or so, but it seemed to be heading for 2-ish - it can be seen from the three centres mentioned in that graph that there is an implication that higher wealth would suggest a lower occupancy rate.

There can be a lot of ambiguity about what a household is - is a granny flat a household on its own, what is an HMO in these terms, etc..?

 

[Just little old me:)]

I'm not sure what's happened in the last decade or so, but it seemed to be heading for 2-ish - it can be seen from the three centres mentioned in that graph that there is an implication that higher wealth would suggest a lower occupancy rate.

There can be a lot of ambiguity about what a household is - is a granny flat a household on its own, what is an HMO in these terms, etc..?

I agree that higher wealth would equal lower occupancy.. money over companionship and you would have to be wealthier to get on the property ladder from one wage

 

[Theresa Green]

Bloody hooligans.

I'd love a bungalow

People who live in bungalows have weaker muscle structure and poorer bone density

Stairs, if you are relatively fit, are very good for you

 

[Theresa Green]

I agree that higher wealth would equal lower occupancy.. money over companionship and you would have to be wealthier to get on the property ladder from one wage

There is no ladder

 

[Lucy]

And you're sti

I agree that higher wealth would equal lower occupancy.. money over companionship and you would have to be wealthier to get on the property ladder from one wage

And less of us want children.

Actually, is that a fact or was it more you had to have children because society demanded it even if you didn't want them?

 

[gilesjuk]

And you're sti

And less of us want children.

Actually, is that a fact or was it more you had to have children because society demanded it even if you didn't want them?

I think Gordon Brown and others were trying to encourage people to have them with £500 trust fund, etc. Needed more young people to pay taxes and NI as the elderly were living longer and claiming pensions for longer.

 

[Gramaisc]

I think Gordon Brown and others were trying to encourage people to have them with £500 trust fund, etc. Needed more young people to pay taxes and NI as the elderly were living longer and claiming pensions for longer.

I doubt many people were going to be bribed into having kids by the promise of five hundred quid that they couldn't get at.

It was more about making a very small step towards reducing the inequalities that people encounter at the adult threshold.

The UK has no shortage of funds for such social matters, it just makes decisions about whether to use them in that direction, or not.

 

[bunique]

Birth rates are falling in many places, some countries (Hungary springs to mind) are paying families to have more children. Not necessarily a bad thing for rates to fall as long as there’s a solid plan to address paying for the larger, aging population. But I don’t think our government has a plan.

 

[Gramaisc]

Birth rates are falling in many places, some countries (Hungary springs to mind) are paying families to have more children. Not necessarily a bad thing for rates to fall as long as there’s a solid plan to address paying for the larger, aging population. But I don’t think our government has a plan.

There aren't many places with a falling population due to a below-replacement birth-rate. Some have emigration issues that greatly swamp that effect - and anti-immigration/ethnic minority policies, as well. Failing economies will also deter replacement immigration for poorer areas.

Japan is probably the best example of a genuinely dropping population, due to birth-rate decline.

Some countries expanding populations are, effectively, just in other countries. You're never very far from a Filipino anywhere on the planet, etc.

The human population of the planet is well beyond double what it was when I was added to it - and heading for triple.

The solid plans tend to be to fund (at best) the absolute minimum for the lower bulk of the population. A few northern European countries make a fair effort and some 'poor' countries still have active social systems that do a lot, unofficially.

 

[Just little old me:)]

And you're sti

And less of us want children.

Actually, is that a fact or was it more you had to have children because society demanded it even if you didn't want them?

Safe to say I have children because myself and my wife wanted children. It would be a sad day if you were right that people were only having children because society expected it. There is no fault in either wanting or not wanting children but I would hope that those that have children have made that choice for the right reasons.

 

[Just little old me:)]

I think Gordon Brown and others were trying to encourage people to have them with £500 trust fund, etc. Needed more young people to pay taxes and NI as the elderly were living longer and claiming pensions for longer.

Current cost to raise a child ......

According to the CPAG, the cost of raising a child (excluding housing, childcare and council tax) from birth to 18 is now: £160,692 for a couple family. £193,801 for a single parent/guardian.

Would £500 convince me to have more children