Proposal for new houses in Walton on the Hill.

Just little old me:)

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For the younger members of the forum.....this is a scene in the 1973 film Soylent Green, not a condom factory, like the carer thought.... πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„


πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ I thought @Withnail was being a bit harsh as it genuinely looked like a production line in a condom factory to my uneducated mind which I thought a harsh response to population controlπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ sorry @Withnail ...my bad πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
 

gilesjuk

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πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ I thought @Withnail was being a bit harsh as it genuinely looked like a production line in a condom factory to my uneducated mind which I thought a harsh response to population controlπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ sorry @Withnail ...my bad πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Funny that a scene from that film was used as that's the future the way we're going. The rich and powerful see the planet as facing some challenges and want the ordinary people of this world to reduce their living standards so they don't have to. Which was pretty much the reality of life in Soylent Green, the ordinary people living in overcrowded homes eating "soylent" products (Bill Gates wants us to all eat bugs, similar parallel) while the rich carried on as normal with their booze, jam and meats.

Do you ever hear about rewilding of golf courses, a ban on private jets, a ban on swimming pools or anything else that affects the rich? nope.
 

Just little old me:)

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Funny that a scene from that film was used as that's the future the way we're going. The rich and powerful see the planet as facing some challenges and want the ordinary people of this world to reduce their living standards so they don't have to. Which was pretty much the reality of life in Soylent Green, the ordinary people living in overcrowded homes eating "soylent" products (Bill Gates wants us to all eat bugs, similar parallel) while the rich carried on as normal with their booze, jam and meats.

Do you ever hear about rewilding of golf courses, a ban on private jets, a ban on swimming pools or anything else that affects the rich? nope.
Dude... Is there anything in life that makes you happy? I find if I focus more on the positive things and less on the negative and work on things I can control and don't worry about things out of my control that generally I can contribute in my brief time on this planet in as harmonious a way as possible. Can I click my fingers and bring world peace and an end to climate change? No. But can I make choices in life that in some small way help? Well yes. If I want people to join the cause would I preach like I know best? No. Could I perhaps highlight the benefits I personally have felt from making those small changes in my own life in a positive manner? Most definitely as this is surely the best way to encourage others to maybe try it for themselves. Don't tell people they're all wrong if you want them on side. Tell people what you've done to change and how it's positively impacted your life and if they like it not only will they try it but they will shout about it to everyone else in a positive manner.
Life on this planet is brief and it's up to us to make the most of it in as positive a manner as possible. Yes there will undoubtedly be hard/bad times but how we choose to react to these will be the choice that decides whether we have a happy life or notπŸ‘
 

Noah

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very much conditioned over the last 50 years as to what produce we should buy
Goes back nearer 140 years when British farming collapsed and the government of the day though it better to import frozen lamb from New Zealand, beef from Argentina and grain from all over the place rather than support local agriculture. Not a fan of the 50s & early 60s food & shopping wise, diet often restricted & boring and if you think "Open All Hours" was a comedy, I would regard it as a documentary on the local shops of the period.
 

Just little old me:)

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Goes back nearer 140 years when British farming collapsed and the government of the day though it better to import frozen lamb from New Zealand, beef from Argentina and grain from all over the place rather than support local agriculture. Not a fan of the 50s & early 60s food & shopping wise, diet often restricted & boring and if you think "Open All Hours" was a comedy, I would regard it as a documentary on the local shops of the period.
Ultimately food in the the 50s and 60s was limited by recipes. There's a lot more we can do now a days but I definitely don't miss things like the white grisly bit in bacon or the mass of veins in beef or lamb.
Flip side to that is that every time people have made great recipes from the cheap cuts now a days a TV chef does a recipe and the price of them sky rockets (like belly pork for example).
 

Glam

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Not a fan, jam roly-poly every time.
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Withnail

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πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ I thought Withnail was being a bit harsh as it genuinely looked like a production line in a condom factory to my uneducated mind which I thought a harsh response to population control...
I'm afraid i'm going to have to put you in the same corner as @gilbert grape for sub par reading comprehension.

If it was as easy as controlling birth rates, the population issue would actually be potentially straightforward. Outside of a few outliers, birth rates globally have not only stalled, but have actually begun to decline. We are already not making people, that is no longer the 'problem'. Condoms for Catholics, even with a Pope who seems amenable to the idea, is now moot.

The population is growing because people already alive are not dying. And they are not dying at an alarming rate. Heaven knows Covid did its best, and if we get another zoonotic shift from H5N1 that'll do better, but outside of 'natural causes', any anthropomorphic population 'control' could only realistically be achieved in one way.

So @gilesjuk can frame it any way they want, but population growth is already 'baked in' for at least a generation, if they are serious about 'population control' it means killing old folk. TBF that might turn out to be a vote winner within a few election cycles - stranger things have happened.

Quite how that means i am somehow opposed to UK food security is anybody's guess, but i don't think giles is particularly good at comprehension, reading or otherwise, either
 

Theresa Green

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Not dying at an alarming rate ?

Damn physicians!

If only there was a new plague

Just like Logan’s Run

Not a grey pube in sight
 
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