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Withnail
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Can i just break that down into two parts?
I am using the material that you have provided...
1) The way this is being done is quite alarming...
So let's look at that -
... They 'suspect'? What they are 'hearing'? 'WAY' higher? How high is that?
INTERLUDE
I’m going to read out a list of areas that are in the UK, and that will "raise eyebrows" - let's take two minutes out of a ten minute video simply saying ... Warrington... East Midlands... Ilfracombe... Neasden...
... does he? Do you? Does anyone else?
... that is, literally, why they are where they are, what kind of question is that?
Pertinent one this one, because it actually touches on the ^thread topic - this isn't about 'losing' student accommodation at all, it is about repurposing it. And i'm just going to say etc etc because that seems to be a cheap way of saying i have nothing of value extra to say without saying that, yet seeming like there is perhaps something extra i might have said.
How are we 'losing' student accommodation at Beaconside by housing people there?
It's ridiculous
Etc etc etc
2) Serco are there again!
It's not like outsourcing hasn't been a problem for at least 20 years
What year is it? It's almost certainly longer than that isn't it?
Seriously, what year is it, and why is everything taking so long?
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tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Government creates an unnecessary system where asylum seekers cost lots of money to house.
Government creates an environment where the act of seeking asylum takes an unnecessary amount of time.
Government points to asylum seekers and says look at them, what bastards! And the gammon lap it up.
It's funny that the same people always accusing others of not being able to think for themselves so readily tow the tory party line on this and never look at the bigger picture. Covid was a conspiracy, Trump really won the election, hilarys emails, but in this case it can't be the government its those bloody foreigners fault. Wake up sheeple!
Government creates an environment where the act of seeking asylum takes an unnecessary amount of time.
Government points to asylum seekers and says look at them, what bastards! And the gammon lap it up.
It's funny that the same people always accusing others of not being able to think for themselves so readily tow the tory party line on this and never look at the bigger picture. Covid was a conspiracy, Trump really won the election, hilarys emails, but in this case it can't be the government its those bloody foreigners fault. Wake up sheeple!
gilbert grape
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It’s all f###ed up and none of us really know the true picture, was my main point for posting this as the info was taking from the “service provider” documentation.
I can see a fair amount of the population gradually phasing from -
“We can all live together in harmony”
To
“But not like that!”
while we evolve as smoothly as a Clarkson cross field rally!
Conspiracy theorists claiming they’ll break systems til it crashes are getting closer to the truth day by day. Brexit and the movement of people changed the outcome for many from 2021 onwards and they sure as hell won’t be changing laws to help them back, while the partial destruction of Ukraine brings not only arms sales but also rebuilding contracts for Black Rock. Tell me none of it is linked!!
I can see a fair amount of the population gradually phasing from -
“We can all live together in harmony”
To
“But not like that!”
while we evolve as smoothly as a Clarkson cross field rally!
Conspiracy theorists claiming they’ll break systems til it crashes are getting closer to the truth day by day. Brexit and the movement of people changed the outcome for many from 2021 onwards and they sure as hell won’t be changing laws to help them back, while the partial destruction of Ukraine brings not only arms sales but also rebuilding contracts for Black Rock. Tell me none of it is linked!!
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Thehooperman
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airbusA346
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Forced?Here's 12.000 of them, forced to be in Britain just to apply and sat on their arses for the best part of a year at the very least, who don't even get interviewed. Just a questionnaire! But how else could we have got the gammon so wound up and distracted, much better we pay serco a fortune to put them in shitty bedsits.
Asylum claims for 12,000 to be considered without face-to-face interview
The Home Office is to scrap face-to-face interviews for asylum seekers from five countries.www.bbc.co.uk
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Yes, you can't claim asylum til you're on British soil so literarally must come and stay in a hotel if they want to apply. There were a few more relevant words after the ones you highlighted, they were between those and the full stop.Forced?
tek-monkey
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Syrian: I'd like to claim asylum please!
Gov: No problem, please report to a UK office.
Syrian: OK, can I book a plane to the UK?
Gov: Nope! Sorry, there's no legal way for you to come here, lol.
Syrian: OK, so I'll come illegally, paying thousands to criminals. Now what?
Gov: Well, in that case we'll put you in a hotel for 18 months and ban you from supporting yourself, even though we know 3/4 of applications are accepted on first look.
It's a truly wonderful system.
Gov: No problem, please report to a UK office.
Syrian: OK, can I book a plane to the UK?
Gov: Nope! Sorry, there's no legal way for you to come here, lol.
Syrian: OK, so I'll come illegally, paying thousands to criminals. Now what?
Gov: Well, in that case we'll put you in a hotel for 18 months and ban you from supporting yourself, even though we know 3/4 of applications are accepted on first look.
It's a truly wonderful system.
Cue
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It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
tek-monkey
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DoggedWalker
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If Serco are only contracted to provide accommodation, none of the other things you mention are their responsibility.
tek-monkey
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This is very true, but does make their charges rather extortionate considering what is provided
Gramaisc
Forum O. G.
You could try going direct from Syria to UK territory in Cyprus, but that doesn't work, either...
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
My opinion of SERCO has been at sub basement level for years. Having briefly had to work alongside them on a project in a previous life, opens your eyes to what utter charlatans they are.
Never knowingly undercharge, is the company motto.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
My opinion of serco is similar, however...
If someone provides the service you asked for at the price you agreed to you then who is at fault when you realise its not what you actually wanted?
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
Edited cos I misread you.
Fair point. The government didn't pay for anything else because they simply don't care about these people in any way shape or form.
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tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Yup, they're basically double glazing salesmen just on a bigger scale, exploiting the stupidity/gullibility/lack of empathy of the government. Asylum seekers costing a lot is in both of their interests.
airbusA346
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They aren't physically forced though are they. They have made the choice to come to the UK, instead of stopping in one of the many countries they have passed through.