Russia/Ukraine, China/Taiwan.

[BobClay]

It's going to take more than a bent f****** spoon to stop Putin. IF the 'deterrent' doesn't work, we could be on the end game. It worked before, but those old Russian leaders of the Cold War were mostly WW2 (or the Great Patriotic War as the Russians call it) veterans and had a pretty good idea of what a total war can do to a country. Putin is an unstable head case, he might just go for it.

I can only hope Europe and the West are tooled up and ready to play.

(Orders 10 more rolls of bacofoil from Amazon.)

“Si vis pacem, para bellum”
Flavius Vegetius Renatus

(“If you want peace, prepare for war!”)
So goes one of many attributes and translations.

(Don't mind me, I'm on another dose of Chemo tomorrow so I've got a roughish week ahead.)

 

[Glam]

(Don't mind me, I'm on another dose of Chemo tomorrow so I've got a roughish week ahead.)

 

[SketchyMagpie]

Best of luck BobClay. You'll be in our thoughts.

 

[SketchyMagpie]

Looks like the second part of the thread title might be finally coming into play... :/

China to begin live-fire military exercises near Taiwan coast in wake of Pelosi visit – as it happened

This blog is now close

www.theguardian.com

 

[Theresa Green]

UK military alert status

 

[tek-monkey]

UK military alert status

Nothing like a good war to get the popularity of a PM up, I suppose at least this time we know they really do have WMDs.

 

[Studio Tan]

“Those whom the gods would destroy they first make mad” Could that be Vlad’ ?
Anyway, what I’m trying to say is that this might not be a good time to commission that new bathroom suite, or a home extension.
Thinking about it, the home extension could work - providing it’s a few metres below ground.

 

[tek-monkey]

It's all going a bit Pete Tong, hearing now that those in the 'disputed' regions that were given Russian passports are being refused entry into Russia as they try to flee the Ukranian advances. The Wagner group are promising prisoners their freedom if they serve for 6 months (and execution if they try to desert) and as Russian law does not allow for release through service a sideline in KIA/new passports from the aforementioned 'disputed' regions is in operation. And all the while the Russians are being told it's to protect their borders from the evil aggressors.

 

[basil]

40 years ago HM Government advised that we shelter 'under the stairs' in the event of a nuclear weapon attack.

The scariest scenario was 'survived for what '.....

 

[joshua]

40 years ago HM Government advised that we shelter 'under the stairs' in the event of a nuclear weapon attack.
The scariest scenario was 'survived for what '.....

40 years ago RAF Stafford was on the target list, one dose of "instant sunshine" and the whole damm town would have vanished

 

[Gramaisc]

40 years ago RAF Stafford was on the target list, one dose of "instant sunshine" and the whole damm town would have vanished

Those of us who were near enough might still have had most of the walls standing, from the downward direction of the blast from the air-burst.

Just a matter of putting the roof and floors back.

 

[SketchyMagpie]

*regrets clicking on this thread*

 

[Gramaisc]

*regrets clicking on this thread*

These might give cause for some hope.

Vasily Arkhipov - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Stanislav Petrov - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[joshua]

*regrets clicking on this thread*

Sleep well

 

[Raven]

This from the BBC, yes the BBC.

This one will show you who stirred the pot & why (and continues to do so)

Another view

Yes I know you are all signed up the the Russia phobia agenda as that is what we have been feed since the 50’s but try to look beyond the Beano MSM if you can ?
Ok reading the comments from you all so far that will be unlikely so just get the abuse going instead.

 

[SketchyMagpie]

Yes I know you are all signed up the the Russia phobia agenda as that is what we have been feed since the 50’s but try to look beyond the Beano MSM if you can ?
Ok reading the comments from you all so far that will be unlikely so just get the abuse going instead.

I think you already started the abuse, didn't you...?

 

[tek-monkey]

This from the BBC, yes the BBC.

This one will show you who stirred the pot & why (and continues to do so)

Another view

Yes I know you are all signed up the the Russia phobia agenda as that is what we have been feed since the 50’s but try to look beyond the Beano MSM if you can ?
Ok reading the comments from you all so far that will be unlikely so just get the abuse going instead.

The countries previously occupied by Russia seem most concerned with fighting them, the people with the best knowledge of what Ukraine has coming are the ones trying hardest to stop it, Lithuanian citizens have been crowd funding drones for them.

I trust people who've lived it more than those who read about it, and the sentiment is strongly anti Russian.

 

[BobClay]

I have to wonder if these f****** bacofoil hatters on this thread were actually around during the Cold War !!! If they were actually involved in it.

If not.

THEN STFU

 

[Withnail]

The ^Newsnight bit from the BBC, yes the BBC, is from 2015, yes 2015.

But you are probably right that Ukraine hasn't changed that much since then.

After all, in 2015 the UK ended an historic coalition Con/Lib government by voting a majority Conservative government led by David Cameron. One of the key issues of the Election had been the promise of a Referendum on the UK's membership of the European Union...

ALMOST NOTHING IN UK POLITICS HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN

So yes, your moving pictures are a welcome break from reality.

 

[tek-monkey]

I have to wonder if these f****** bacofoil hatters on this thread were actually around during the Cold War !!! If they were actually involved in it.

If not.

THEN STFU

Most conspiracy theorists are pro Russia, it's such a strange coincidence.