Stafford East Consulation Regarding Proposed Development.

bennett450

Active Member
Just had this thought the post about residential development at Tixall road to the east of Stafford,

This include First phase of the site of the eastern access improvement scheme comprising the 'beaconside extension, 600 new family homes a one ache extension to the Crematorium is proposed, also the develper would also make contributions to other infrastructure including education and highway to ensure the local area is improved by any future development.​
I will post picture of the plan in a bit​
 

finnback

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You've got to love how thy package these things up...greenspace, crem extention, homes for the elderly, first time buyers, affordable homes. Oh Utopia (not that i'm against it per se...more the propaganda of it!)
 

Dabbler

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I think this'll impact on lots of people in Stafford - 600 homes will probably equal about 900 extra cars. Obviously they'll be able to get to Beaconside via the link up to the fire station road and Blackheath Lane (which will have a new junction anyway following the Beacon Business Park extension) and possibly, though it isn't said here, if they open Birkdale Drive up once the beaconside - tixall road link is open. Then there is the soon to be built cycleway / footpath between there and Baswich Lane, which will become the bypass once the road is extended to the bottom of Baswich Lane.

That is a lot of extra traffic and requirement for service provisions (school /health centre etc) - not sure if St Johns (if that is the primary catchment school) could cope with a significant number of extra people?

If we can sort the infrastructure out, I don't object to new development, but we do need the basics in place first..
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
How is this potential development affected by HS2?

The Stafford East one should be missed by the current proposed route, but the Northern one along Beaconside will have some issues to be resolved around the back of Hopton Garage...
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
But, there's a little Health Centre thing, up by the University roundabout, on what the developer calls Western Road...
That should do the job more than enough.

They could get Badger Badger Badger to run it.

What they don't know about healthcare...
 

Mudgie

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I've today read about Hydrant Way that "The current fire station was built in the 1990s and the building fabric is now in a poor condition, a design and access statement submitted as part of the application said, with existing plant and services approaching the end of their useful life".
Surely something badly wrong when a publically funded building doesn't last thirty years.
 

Mudgie

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Gifted from Asda......
Yes indeed.
Move the fire station from a central location and then an extra one is needed on the other side of town, and there's no way that two fire stations are cheaper to run than one.
Or was an additional one built at Rising Brook after they realised that fire engines are too heavy for the Baswich Lane canal bridge ?
 
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Theresa Green

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I've today read about Hydrant Way that "The current fire station was built in the 1990s and the building fabric is now in a poor condition, a design and access statement submitted as part of the application said, with existing plant and services approaching the end of their useful life".
Surely something badly wrong when a publically funded building doesn't last thirty years.

Move it to the old Coop building

Simples
 

gilesjuk

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I've today read about Hydrant Way that "The current fire station was built in the 1990s and the building fabric is now in a poor condition, a design and access statement submitted as part of the application said, with existing plant and services approaching the end of their useful life".
Surely something badly wrong when a publically funded building doesn't last thirty years.

Fabric? is it made from cotton or something? (yeah I know it is a technical term).
 

ben0239

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Yes indeed.
Move the fire station from a central location and then an extra one is needed on the other side of town, and there's no way that two fire stations are cheaper to run than one.
Or was an additional one built at Rising Brook after they realised that fire engines are too heavy for the Baswich Lane canal bridge ?
No completely wrong. Furthermore rising brook is a retained fire station whereas beaconside is full time.

Originally fire stations were built in locations within town centres or near to town centres this is because their original role was to protect buildings and the main areas of population.

However with the introduction of smoke detectors and sprinklers etc the number of fires that the fire service now attend has drastically decreased now there main role is to deal with road traffic accidents.

The most severe road traffic accidents occur on motorways and Stafford town is difficult to get across so the fire stations are located near to m6 junctions. Furthermore historically there were a lot of low level bin fires within highfields and burton meno which is why Stafford has / used to have a small van type fire engine to deal with these.

The new fire station at rising brook were built under a pfi agreement along with others at stone, Cannock, Newcastle etc. and were designed to be more than just fire stations. The fire station at riding brook has a community room that can be hired out and at other fire stations they house police posts and ambulance crews etc.
 

Mudgie

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However with the introduction of smoke detectors and sprinklers etc the number of fires that the fire service now attend has drastically decreased now there main role is to deal with road traffic accidents.
Ben,
If their main role is to deal with road traffic accidents why was the new fire station built five miles from both M6 junctions on the opposite side of town ?
 
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