1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Welcome to Stafford Forum. Please or sign-up and start posting!

Stafford shops opening - Turning into a boom town?

Discussion in 'Stafford Chat' started by Trumpet, Jun 21, 2017.

  1. c0tt0nt0p

    c0tt0nt0p Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    2,136
    Likes Received:
    1,572
    The 2 X chargers on the Hough are now operational... It's 40p per kW....
     
  2. Cue

    Cue Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    May 4, 2016
    Messages:
    2,002
    Likes Received:
    1,335
    Do we have confirmation on what kind of chargers they are? Fast or rapid?

    (you’ll know if they’re rapid because the cables will be insanely thick and attached to a very big box)
     
  3. bunique

    bunique Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2012
    Messages:
    685
    Likes Received:
    591
    Popped in on Saturday. It was good and the owner let us try some fruit before we bought, there’s a chilled fresh produce section out the back as well as massive bags of pulses, rice, spices etc etc. Youngest was fascinated there were 5 different types of banana on sale!
     
    markpa12003, littleme and PeterD like this.
  4. proactive

    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2010
    Messages:
    16,637
    Likes Received:
    12,601
    They're 50kw Instavolt chargers.
     
  5. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

    Joined:
    May 15, 2007
    Messages:
    22,932
    Likes Received:
    8,611
    So just as expensive as running a diesel?
     
  6. proactive

    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2010
    Messages:
    16,637
    Likes Received:
    12,601
    For me 40p per kw would represent a 50% saving over running an equivalent petrol powered car.

    Most people would only do a partial charge at one of these unless on a long journey and mainly charge at home (I pay 13p per kw to charge at home).

    Then you need to factor in the fact you pay much less for maintenance with an EV.
     
  7. gilbert grape

    gilbert grape Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2010
    Messages:
    1,905
    Likes Received:
    796
  8. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

    Joined:
    May 15, 2007
    Messages:
    22,932
    Likes Received:
    8,611
    I read that the average EV does about 4 miles per kwh, is that correct? If so for me it's about the same, even with the recent hikes in prices I'm spending about 10p per mile on fuel.
     
  9. proactive

    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2010
    Messages:
    16,637
    Likes Received:
    12,601
    My missus only used to get about 3 mpkwh in her Hyundai. I found I could get 4 and a bit quite easily in my Tesla in the summer and 3.5 to 4 in the winter. Obviously the slower you drive the more economical the car will be, so if you drive round town mainly with a bit of countryside pottering you be much more economical than driving up and down the motorway all day at a speed that doesn't annoy other road users. The same applies to ICE obviously.

    We've both been EVless for a couple of months and can't wait to get back into them again next month. Petrol stations really are hideous places to spend time in!
     
  10. The Hawk

    The Hawk Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    1,718
    Likes Received:
    2,302
    Have you thought about switching to an EV electricity tarriff, such as OVO Drive (6p per kWh)?
     
  11. proactive

    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2010
    Messages:
    16,637
    Likes Received:
    12,601
    Ovo Drive is 14.5 ppkwh according to their website. Besides I should have added that quite a bit of our electricity is generated by solar panels so we don't actually pay anything like 13p most of the time. At work, in fact, all our electricity is self generated for about 10 months of the year so works out even cheaper at point of use.
     
    Lucy, Thehooperman and tek-monkey like this.
  12. c0tt0nt0p

    c0tt0nt0p Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    2,136
    Likes Received:
    1,572
    I don't have an electric car but let's be honest, you wouldn't fully charge your car there in the same way you wouldn't fill up a ICE at a motorway service station...
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2021
    Gramaisc and proactive like this.
  13. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

    Joined:
    May 15, 2007
    Messages:
    22,932
    Likes Received:
    8,611
    I also wouldn't fill up on the motorway, I'm a skinflint!

    Was just surprised at the cost, morrisons is 30p I didn't realise they varied so much.
     
  14. proactive

    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2010
    Messages:
    16,637
    Likes Received:
    12,601
    Supermarket chargers can often be cheaper as they are subsidised, in the same way supermarkets subsidise their petrol.
     
  15. The Hawk

    The Hawk Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    1,718
    Likes Received:
    2,302
    It's a split rate, you pay the 'normal' going rate for your domestic electricity, but a special 24 hour a day reduced rate of 6p per kWh for your electric car charger.
     
  16. Cue

    Cue Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    May 4, 2016
    Messages:
    2,002
    Likes Received:
    1,335
    Realistically Rapids are your “oh god I’m not getting home on this charge” stops, as they dump a load of DC straight into your battery very quickly. Had to use one in a pinch in Cannock and had 60% back in 15 minutes on my Leaf. They’re mostly expensive to use because they’re pretty damn big bits of kit with active cooling and such… so expensive to install too. Whereas a fast charger is basically just chucking a high current of 230V AC at your car and your car handles actually turning it into DC for the battery… fast chargers are generally quite compact internally and most of what you see is to make it robust rather than because it’s needed. These are generally ones you use at hotels, longer stay shopping centres, etc…

    Basically rapids you pay for the convenience because you really really need it. A fast chargers you generally won’t pay as much for, and can sometimes get them on subscription plans (Polar Plus) if you use them a lot.

    Mostly it’s us plebs with small batteries that need either of them unless on a long trip, if I was driving around in a Model 3 I’d basically never plug it in away from home.


    Thoughts and prayers to you during this difficult time. Can’t imagine going back
     
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2021
    tek-monkey likes this.
  17. proactive

    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2010
    Messages:
    16,637
    Likes Received:
    12,601
  18. bunique

    bunique Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2012
    Messages:
    685
    Likes Received:
    591
  19. markpa12003

    markpa12003 Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,438
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    I'm going to check it out tomorrow. Another excellent addition to Stafford.
     
  20. c0tt0nt0p

    c0tt0nt0p Well-Known Forumite

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    2,136
    Likes Received:
    1,572

Share This Page