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Nash Ford

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Just seen this on the Support Stafford Hospital website and wanted to share:

Francis Report

We as a group have been asked to comment and be interviewed by the press this week on the Francis Report. We feel strongly that there are many others who are far more qualified to do so.

We do feel though that now we must concentrate on the future for our community. Our focus has always been on and will continue to be on a 24 hr A&E at Stafford. If this is lost the majority of services will be too. The knock on effect will be devastating for our community.

Let us as a community deal in facts:

1. Stafford Hospital is now led by a different management team. It engages with the councils, public and press. It is accountable.

2. 83% of staff would happily have their friends and family treated there. Compare that with more than twenty hospitals where less than half the staff said they would be happy at their hospital.

3. Note that Stafford and Cannock Hospitals have been doing Cameron's so called " new "family and friends test since April 2012 and that over 90% would recommend the hospital.

4. Our community wants local services for local people, over twenty thousand signed a petition for 24hr A&E services.

5. Let us not forget that over fifty thousand people in Staffordshire do not have access to a vehicle and that many live in rural outlying areas with poor public transport. We must not create greater health inequalities.

6. Specialist care is only required by the minority of A&E attendees. The vast majority should be treated locally.

7. This is not a specific problem localised to Stafford. Hospitals of a similar size around the country are experiencing loss of services.

There are opportunities for the public to become involved in the shaping of our future health services. It is up to individuals to engage in these and make their feelings known. If we are not careful, we may as a community be too late in preventing the break up of our hospitals and services.

Please write to your MP, councillors, the press, the Clinical Commissioning Groups who dictate what services will be and where (they hold the purse strings,) get involved in GP practise forums and tell your GP what you want locally. The more vocal the people the better. We need to show again that the community wants safe, local services for local people.

As Andy Burnham was quoted in The Sunday Times "the people of Stafford deserve a safe and sustainable local hospital." A sentiment in which I am sure everyone will agree.

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John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Andy Burnham? Cabinet member 2007 - 2010? FFS!
The Sunday Times? Owner R Murdoch?- C*nt
We are sick to death of writing!
And reading - limp, lame, drivel,rhetoric and crap
Get a Grip!!


( nothing personal of course )
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
OK Mr NASHing teeth of StafFORD now is the time to get that stupid lame statement off the front of your embarrassing website

You know the media will be looking for quotes and talking heads today so do yourself a HUGE favour and seriously consider losing that drivel before you find yourself out of your depth and your real motives spelt out in Private Eye
 

Moby Dick

Well-Known Forumite
OK Mr NASHing teeth of StafFORD now is the time to get that stupid lame statement off the front of your embarrassing website

You know the media will be looking for quotes and talking heads today so do yourself a HUGE favour and seriously consider losing that drivel before you find yourself out of your depth and your real motives spelt out in Private Eye
Having just turned on the bbc news to hear Julie Bailey venting her spleen yet again and that the focus of the news content will be on her and her campaign then I fear that hammer and nail are hovering over the large wooden box we call Stafford Hospital.....
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Having just turned on the bbc news to hear Julie Bailey venting her spleen yet again and that the focus of the news content will be on her and her campaign then I fear that hammer and nail are hovering over the large wooden box we call Stafford Hospital.....

So what are you saying?

Ban someone from talking because they demand answers?

You seem to confuse the miserable criminal management of our hospital with those people who choose to try and highlight these crimes

Please clarify
 

joshua

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Without Julie and others speaking up how many more would still be being maltreated and how many more wlould have died.
It is so sadly typical of some folk in this town that they vent their anger on the brave folk who are trying to reveal the extent of the problems rather than confront the problems in our midst.
 

Zylo

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Not really, it's about kicking a dog when it's down now, when it's trying its best to improve, and is (from what i've hearD) improving, they're going to end up getting it shut down, that's going to be brilliant for all of us isn't it? GREAT!

Wonder how much money they're making from the papers that love them ??
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Wonder how much money they're making from the papers that love them ??

Simpleton

Because this is a very complex issue about budgets, targets, status and failed admistrators managing other failing staff it seems that everyone with an arsehole must have an opinion , and these opinions are too often akin to a youth grunting in the street or a Daily Mail reader ranting at a headline but not having the attention levels to read to the bottom of the page

This dog is part of a giant litter, a pack, and the pack is in the hands of those who will continue to work hard to rid themsleves of any responsibility for it.

Unless you and I and everyone else bark very very loudly indeed
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Before we start saying that this is about kicking a dog when it's down, why don't we actually wait until the report is published at lunchtime and we have all had time to digest its implications, rather than relying on non-contextual 'leaked quotes'. Then we need to see what those in power from all parties propose to do to ensure as much as possible that this sort of thing cannot happen again.

This is an issue far wider than Stafford hospital (which just happened to be where the news broke) and seems to be endemic across a large part of the NHS. It concerns us all or it should concern us all and should not be an issue used for political gain. That's why certain organisations so p!ss me off because they are trying to make political capital out of this and claim that those who presided over the decline of our NHS are now to be listened to as if they are the second coming.
 

Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt

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I hope the hospital can come through this as I strongly believe that a town the size of Stafford with the catchment that it has needs a comprehensive hospital, even more so if you take into consideration the plans at the moment to build significant new settlements in and around the town. Having said that though I don't want a hospital at any cost. If it can't sort itself out then it should be closed, there should be no more patients put in danger by bad management and poor care. Unfortunately I suspect that this is the line that the Government will take, the line that it isn't safe to keep it open and therefore it should be shut down (of course the decision would be driven by the need to save money).

If it is to stay open along with the obvious internal improvements needed it also needs a massive re-branding exercise. I would ditch the name "Stafford Hospital" as it is damaged beyond belief. This brand will attract neither patients or staff to the place. With choice becoming more the focus of the NHS no one will "choose" to have anything done at Stafford that they can get done elsewhere, the thought of having to drink water out of flower vases is the last thing that should be on your mind if you are ill. Call it "Mid West Midlands Infirmary" or anything, just something else. Perhaps have a competition to re-name after a famous Staffordian "The Dave Gorman Hospital" perhaps......
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Changing the name of an organisation is usually a bad sign - Calder Hall/Windscale/Sellafield, Post Office/Consignia, etc., - a P.R. response to a practical problem.

The hospital itself is perfectly adequate, shutting it in response to this would be largely an act of fiscal convenience and spite.
 

Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt

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Changing the name of an organisation is usually a bad sign - Calder Hall/Windscale/Sellafield, Post Office/Consignia, etc., - a P.R. response to a practical problem.

The hospital itself is perfectly adequate, shutting it in response to this would be largely an act of fiscal convenience and spite.

Oh I don't doubt that, as I say if I was a betting man I would put my money on the hospital being gone in 5 years. The Government won't pass up this opportunity to get some much needed NHS cost savings. The question as to whether it is or isn't fit to continue will become largely irrelevant - the Government will use all of the meaty, shocking, terrible aspects of what went on between 2005-08 as an excuse to get it closed and in their eyes show that they have listened to recommendations and taken action.

As for the re-branding, not withstanding my paragraph above, "Stafford Hospital" as a trusted, caring, responsible treatment establishment is dead. I don't think they have a choice but to do something about it
 

Zylo

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Yep then we can all be happy that the hospital has gone, no more problems- better just hope you don't have a heart attack or need to go to a hospital soon as possible

Fantastic

in 5 years, No uni campus no hospital, probs even less shops

The future is bright for stafford.

Of course those that are accountable for past mistakes should pay- but at the current time, I bet stafford hospital is actually quite a lot better than quite a few others..

All the hard work for nothing

Also isn't going to be fun for family's/people without a car.
 

Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt

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Yep then we can all be happy that the hospital has gone, no more problems- better just hope you don't have a heart attack or need to go to a hospital soon as possible

Fantastic

in 5 years, No uni campus no hospital, probs even less shops

The future is bright for stafford.

Of course those that are accountable for past mistakes should pay- but at the current time, I bet stafford hospital is actually quite a lot better than quite a few others..

All the hard work for nothing

Yeah it is a shame. I myself have had fantastic care and support whenever I've needed the hospital services but I fear that the media attention, the damaged brand & above all the Government drive to make cost savings will eventually win the day & it will go. I would like to see those responsible, management, members of staff whoever behind bars but of course that won't happen as every decision made within the hospital will have been made collectively or by committee in order that the poo doesn't stick to any one individual.

People have been duped into believing that the inquiry set up by this Government was done so as a way of getting to the truth and bringing those responsible to account. I don't think it is, it was set up by the Government to give them a watertight reason to close it and save money.
 

flossietoo

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Julie Bailey isn't "venting her spleen". She had the courage to speak out. She kept doing so when people in positions of power and responsibility told her that she was wrong and was proved right. I honestly don't understand how anyone can do anything but commend her courage and yet she has faced the kind of personal criticism that would make most of us want to crawl away and hide. Why on earth would people not be grateful to her? Would you rather have continued to entrust your loved ones to the kind of care received by her mother and the family members of the other campaigners? Good grief...if that had been my dad....then you'd have seen spleen!
 

Zylo

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Where is this cafe? exactly, I might go and ask you know if she actually wants it to be shut down or not, would be interesting to see what she thinks.

(before anyone jumps on the post, I'm not blaming her- but just wonder what her opinion would be?)
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Where is this cafe? exactly
I believe that it is this one.

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