Tealights

gon2seed

(and me! - Ed)
Sorry to get all heavy on you, but felt it was my public duty to post this press release from my union:

STEVENAGE FIRE DEATHS INVESTIGATION: UNION BACKS URGENT PUBLIC SAFETY WARNING OVER USE OF “TEALIGHT†CANDLES

The Fire Brigades Union is backing an urgent warning to the public issued by the Coroner carrying out the Inquest into the deaths of two firefighters and a member of the public in a flat fire in Stevenage. Firefighters Jeff Wornham and Michael Miller died trying to save Nathalie Close in a fire at Harrow Court, Stevenage, Hertfordshire in February 2005.

The inquest into their deaths started on Monday 19 February 2007. It quickly became apparent to the inquest that “tealight†candles placed directly on top of a TV set in a bedroom started the fire.

FBU regional secretary Graham Noakes said: “Two firefighters made the ultimate sacrifice and died trying to save Nathalie Close. A ‘Tealight’ candle started the fire which killed all three and injured Nathalie’s boyfriend.

“On behalf of fire crews across the UK we would urge the public to take additional care when using all candles but small ‘tealight’ candles in particular. We support calls for more warning to be carried on packets of these candles.

“All instructions for use should be carefully followed. They may look small and relatively harmless, but three families lost loved ones in this tragedy and we don’t want to see any more deaths and injuries like these.â€


***ENDS***

They are only little things but tea lights cause a load of fires, be careful out there!
 

victoriab

victoriaboyle.co.uk
I don't know if this is a stupid question, but it's something I've always wondered about, how is the cause of a fire determined? Surely everything is all burned up out of recognition?
 

BBC

You knows it
It was tealight central at my house during the new years eve powercut. Plus everyone was pretty wasted. Lucky escape by the sound of things!
 

db

#chaplife
noir2985 said:
I don't know if this is a stupid question, but it's something I've always wondered about, how is the cause of a fire determined? Surely everything is all burned up out of recognition?
don't you watch CSI?? they make a computerised 3D reconstruction of the entire building, and recreate all environmental parameters (ambient temperature, windspeed, glare from the sun, etc.).. they then go through the bins to retrieve bank statements, receipts, etc. - anything that will help them build a profile of the occupant.. from this, they extrapolate a list of the likely contents of the room surrounding the point of origin of the fire..

after establishing a psychological profile of the involved party, they can hypothesise as to their behaviour on the night in question.. after inputting this data into the computer, they can render a perfect reconstruction of exactly what will have happened prior to the fire's ignition.. et voila - cause of fire determined :eng101:

BBC said:
It was tealight central at my house during the new years eve powercut. Plus everyone was pretty wasted. Lucky escape by the sound of things!
considering your penchant for pyrotechnics, it's a miracle gon2seed hasn't been round your house in an official capacity yet lol..

this thread has the potential to turn into a great "Fireman Q&A" :D don't forget the OP holds an important message though, y'all..
 

gon2seed

(and me! - Ed)
noir2985 said:
I don't know if this is a stupid question, but it's something I've always wondered about, how is the cause of a fire determined? Surely everything is all burned up out of recognition?
No matter how fierce the conflagration you would be surprised how much is left behind! From the moment we start our training we are taught about evidence preservation, ie we do the minimum amount of extinguishing to keep ourselves safe and to complete the task. We all keep eyes peeled for obvious signs of arson. Then if there is any suspicion its over to the expert Fire Investigation Officer, and possibly the Old Bill arson experts, and even the pooch, who comes along with his handler to sniff out excellerants (flammable fluids). You get a nose for things that comes with experience, and the experts can do amazing things by studying fire spread, depth of charring of wood, etc (So it does get pretty like CSI in the end, but uglier!). If its a big case, the experts from Home Office will decend, and if they are stumped ...

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gon2seed

(and me! - Ed)
Caught us red handed, our covers blown, this is obviously an old video, because we now are not allowed to use damp tea towels in that fashion, or to recommend their use to the public! Latest missive from HQ, too dangerous! be warned. Switch your cooker off if its safe to do so, get out, and get us out! then hope we don't take too long and your house doesn't burn down! ...

Better still use a deep fat fryer, oven chips, or my favourite, use your local chippy!
 
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