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The moral argument of eating meat & dairy

Discussion in 'Lifestyle, Health & Diet' started by Mikinton, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. Mikinton

    Mikinton Well-Known Forumite

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    I don't think I ever told my kids that meat eating is the 'right thing', though I can believe veggies telling theirs that it's the 'wrong thing'. I don't think I'd have told them where it comes from either - I'll have just casually exposed them to the awesomeness that is the bacon sandwich.
     
  2. henryscat

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    There was an article in the Observer on Sunday about synthetic meat:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/21/artificial-chicken-food-prize


    I'm (believe it or not) a bit undecided on where I stand with that one.
     
  3. Gramaisc

    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    We have had a short chat about synthetic meat before..
     
  4. henryscat

    henryscat Well-Known Forumite

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    I guess that doesn't have to be spoken though - if kids are fed meat and told to eat it then most will assume that it is.

    All I can say is my experience.... My brother and I were brought up vegetarian. But, my parents went to great lengths to remind us that was our choice and meat would be bought if we wanted it. Neither of us were told it was "wrong" to eat an animal, but we were told what meat was. I went vegan in 1997 and my brother has remained veggie. We both had the same upbringing, but his beliefs on the subject are quite different to mine.

    We were equally left to make our own minds up on religion and not told what to believe.

    There are some meat eating parents who actively resist their children deciding to become veggie which I do believe is wrong.

    If a kid asks where meat comes from, why shouldn't they be told it's dead animal?
     
  5. Withnail

    Withnail Well-Known Forumite

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    In the Food Monthly mag they had an interesting look at The Future of Food.

     
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    I might not agree with Henryscat view on eating meat(or many other issues for that matter,sometimes I think it's like reading the guardian) but I admire his ability to fight his corner and put a coherant defence of his views.Sadly like many on the left no other view is allowed and this lack of give and take grates with a few posters on here.
     
  7. Mikinton

    Mikinton Well-Known Forumite

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    Don't get me wrong; I'd have been quite happy telling them what I knew or more likely pointing them at their local library or to look it up on the internet. It's just that I don't think they'd ever have asked. I certainly can't remember them doing so, though it was getting on to 15 years ago.
     
  8. henryscat

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    I don't expect people to agree with me... It isn't a case of "no other view is allowed", though there is a but - I dislike when people put forward a view then can't put forward a reasoning for it. And there are some issues like this one I intensely dislike being trivialised.
     
  9. Miss Red

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    I dont eat a lot of meat (through choice) I used to eat steak many moons ago, till i found out the place had been done for horse meat! Then cows got that awful disease - so i eat a lot less now and if im dining out option would be chicken or veggie.

    My daughter - on the other hand loves meat and fish (i do not eat fish either only tuna or roe), whereas she will eat anything including things in shells lol and fishys in tins (eww the ones that look like fish in a tin of tomatoe sauce) i cant even put them on a sandwich for her.
    So she hasnt got any of that from me!
    Ive always told her where the meat comes from (she just shrugs her shoulders and carrys on lol)

    One thing i dont like (which she does) is processed crap, the chicken nuggets & chargrills, kievs etc...its like cardboard chicken and they are always on give away specials at the supermarket.
    These ought to be banned.
     
  10. Miss Red

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    According to what ive read (on the people who have famously done it and are thankfully locked away forever) - we taste closest to pork! So you will have to get a jar of apple sauce in stock lol - om nom nom nom haha
     
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    I've been vegetarian for 30 years and nobody has ever invited me to join a circle. Should I feel offended? Still, it might be easier now I know how to spot other vegetarian types. I've just got to keep a look out for someone with exactly the same political views and lifestyle as me. Presumably we all wear the same clothes, too? It is a shame that Graham didn't like any of the vegetarians he met when he was going round in circles but what a wonderful way to save time when meeting someone new. In future, I think I'm going to follow his example. Anyone who likes nutty chocolate - they're out for a start. Got to be Tories. Oh and I once dated a man who was thinning on top and I didn't like his friends - so I'm going to exclude anyone with a receding hairline. And bald people. They're bound to be worse. They can go on the list. I tell you who else really gets my goat - people with hair. I once met someone with hair and he looked really shifty. I think he might have been homosexual because he had that kind of shoe. Yes, I'm definitely going to put people with hair on the list. Hey this type-thing is brilliant! I wonder if anyone has thought of applying it to people who have different religious beliefs?
     
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  12. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

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    I agree, I know a guy with a paedo smile who I think we should be wary of :strange:
     
  13. Miss Red

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    nor trust a man whos eyebrows meet in the middle :heyhey:
     
  14. Gramaisc

    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    Definitely not, if it's the middle of his back.
     
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    Ok, we'll add men with eyebrows and people who smile (I think it might be safest to extend the category to smiles in general, Tek-monkey, as we might not always be able to spot the paedo smile) to what I'm going to the list. I think we need some clarification on where we stand on chips. I know that we aren't having anything to do with people who have huge chips on their shoulders but do we include curly fries? What about people carrying other kinds of vegetable?
    I wish I'd discovered this philosophy years ago. Genius. My only sorrow is that Graham doesn't like vegetarians. Because I can't help thinking that we could have had such lovely afternoons together, wandering the streams and fields of Staffordshire, me wrestling a fish to the ground while he clubbed it. Regrets, I have a few.
     
  16. Gramaisc

    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    It is a little-known Forum rule that you can be banned for smiling - http://www.staffordforum.com/viewtopic.php?pid=119077#p119077
     
  17. Miss Red

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    its a mono brow lol - get the tweezers out
     
  18. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

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    Mmm, I really like pork :D
     
  19. Em L

    Em L Mental Floss

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    I really don't like pork - you're all safe for now. :urgh:

    Hehe...
     
  20. Glam

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    Having had 2 skin grafts on my face,I can tell you for a fact,yes burning human skin smells like roast pork,I don't know the medical terminology,but after the infected skin had been cut away,the doctor "burnt" the area to stop the blood I suppose,he also burnt the area where he took the skin graft from. All I could smell was burning crackling.
    I know i'm not Twiggy (said it on the Forum loads of times),so there is a lot of fat/crackling on me.
     

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