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Stop being so pedantic, you know what andy w meant!Vegan and vegetarian are not the same thing, so that statement doesn't follow....
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Stop being so pedantic, you know what andy w meant!
Give me credit to know the difference between vegan and veggie. I would have thought not having dairy products would be more healthy but just like a meat free diet there must be issues with a balanced diet esp. protein. I am sure there is a thread on here discussing veggie/vegan.Vegan and vegetarian are not the same thing, so that statement doesn't follow....
If the NOF really thought the ad was wide of the mark they'd have complained to the ASA, but it appears they haven't so they obviously don't.
So, (faceless) bureaucrats as side dishes, then?Things with faces as main meals, things without as a side dish or garnish. Simples.
Nations that consume the most meat and dairy are also the nations with the highest obesity rates.
Agreed, its a pointless comparison as the figures cant be proven to be linked.
http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/obesity.aspxPETA said:It's possible to be an overweight or obese vegan, of course, just as it's possible to be a thin meat-eater, but adult vegans are, on average, 10 to 20 pounds lighter than adult meat-eaters.
http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/obesity.aspx
10-20 pounds does not an obese person make, and weight is not explicitly linked to health. Besides which they will categorise all the junk food eaters as carnivores, forgetting (quite deliberately) that most meat eaters do not live at Greggs.
Its your thread, back up your post.
Meat is not in itself a cause of obesity, unbalanced diets and processed food are.
There are many very healthy meats and fish,
much healthier than a vegan diet that misses a lot of required nutrition.
have met many fat veggies/vegans and many slim carnivores, so how does that mean meat causes obesity?
I myself eat predominately meat, yet at my fattest only hit a 32" waist (back to 30" now but it fluctuates!).
Unless you can do a controlled test where every part of a diet/lifestyle is the same apart from one eats meat protein and another eats fungus, and you use a large test group to do so, then you cannot prove a link exists. Science relies on proof, without it you just have a guess.