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jimbob23

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I saw Keith Curle on the train to Wolverhampton once. He was smoking a fag.

Interesting fact no. 1.
 

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I still remember Geoff thomas's shot for england!! how wide do you want the goal. Didn't it hit the corner flag?

Bloody nice chap though!
 

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jimbob23 said:
I saw Keith Curle on the train to Wolverhampton once. He was smoking a fag.

Interesting fact no. 1.
are you sure it wasn't a really strong skunk splif? you'd think so judging by his performances...
 

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I still remember Geoff thomas's shot for england!! how wide do you want the goal. Didn't it hit the corner flag?
That's what I always think of when I think of Geoff Thomas. That and leukaemia (spelling? I'm in a rush). I went to his benefit game in April - a replay of the Man U v. C. Palace FA Cup Final. Everyone was a bit fat. Except Geoff, but then Brian McClair hasn't done the Tour de France recently.

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jimbob23 said:
I saw Keith Curle on the train to Wolverhampton once. He was smoking a fag.

Interesting fact no. 1.
Now this man was a tosser. Tino Asprilla (leaping like a gazelle) headbutted him at maine road... class!
 

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Lampard is an overrated bag of wank who continues to be exposed in a 4-4-2 formation. Carrick is nothing more than a decent player but for 14million Utd should've got someone else. Such a pity the other targets turned 'us' down or chose to go elsehwere.

As for Parker, I'm sorry but I still don't see what all the fuss is about. I'm no fan of Carrick, and I still have my doubts, but after the first 20mins vs Newcastle he comfortably played him off the park. Whereas one was calmly picking up the ball and distributing it with ease the other spent his time running around like a headless chicken. On that day Sir Nicholas of Gorton was their best midfielder and that's saying something. I'd rather see Phil Neville in the holding role.

Downing is toss and Gary Neville is finished at the highest level IMO. Starting to be shown up, injury problems surfacing and a recovery time which isn't going to help his fitness. It won't be long before Glen Johnson is drafted in and Fergal has gone to Ajax to buy Gary's replacement.

Edit: I'm not saying Parker's crap btw, he isn't, but I just don't rate him that highly and with all due respect being Newcastle's best player this season doesn't mean much. Also, I'm not sure when the media decided he was a holding midfielder? He isn't. Never has been. Box to box, the old fashioned sort. Part of the reason why he was never liked at Chelsea. He never fitted into Jose's plan and does not have the discipline to do the job Makelele does. What I'd give to have the latter in an England shirt or at Utd. World class.
 

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I think it was the aftermath that really raised the heckles. All the finger pointing at Wayne etc. Gerrard and Lampard, two players who are meant to be two of the best midfielders in the world and yet on Satuarday they were both totaly non exsistant, yet is there a bad word said about them...? No. Just the 20 year old kid that England depend on!

So long as everyone's all present and correct at 12:45pm on Saturday they can do what they want on international duty. I won't lose any sleep if they do or don't make the Euros or any other tournament for that matter. ;)
 

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Good points Augustus. I agree that rooney has to much pressure on him. Owen went through a similar period at his age. The boy is only 20 and the nature of this country (especially the press) is to build people up just so we can knock them down. He is absolute class, the best technique of any player i've ever seen play (live), so i'm sure he will come good.

Carrick played well against the Toon, granted. His passing is good and he can tackle unlike Paul scholes who is guaranteed a booking every game it seems. Why bother? I still thought Parker was our best player that day as he has been all season. He isn't a holding player, but he can tackle and track back alot better than carrick. I can't remember seeing a player run so much as him. He is the kind of player who does alot of things that go unnoticed, the ugly things, if you will. If you look at the goals he has scored this season then they have all been him running into the box. He is class. Not world class like makelele (surely one of the worst decisions ever made when madrid sold him to chelsea), but the kind of player you only realise how good he is when in your team and you watch him every week.

I'd rather see the Toon win any trophy than England but i still can't believe that the country that gave the world the beautiful game and has so may outstanding, talented players cannot raise their game when it matters. It's just wrong.

Btw who on earth is Sir nicholas of gorton???
 

Augustus Gloop

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Nicky Butt. He's from Gorton. ;)

Also picked up the name Nicky Bollocks whislt he was at Utd which I thought was a little unfair. He wasn't that bad.

I suspect your summary of Parker will also apply to Carrick once he's settled in at Utd, just like he was missed (and is currently being missed) by Spurs when he was absent. However I still think the key to getting the best from Carrick is playing him alongside a more dynamic midfielder (Hargreaves for example, perhaps even Parker) however it's churlish to even begin such a debate. Lampard won't be dropped, McClaren won't do it. Booting Beckham out is a damn sight easier than dropping the special one's love child. I suspect even benching Rooney is too.

We are about to have the same problem we always have had with recent England managers. Too many bow to media pressure and fail to do their job properly. Too many try and fit a system around players, as opposed to it being the other way around. I said when he got the job the FA had done what the Irish FA had done, employed a yes man. We should have snapped up Big Phil Scolari. He wouldn't have listened to the media and wouldn't have been afraid of cracking some heads together. I suspect we'd have seen a big improvement in the players too. But of course xenophobia prevails - doffs cap to the tabloid rags - and we end up with the Boro boss. For loves sake.

Oh, and he wasn't that good a coach at Utd either. The treble winning side was more to do with Kidd and Harrison than him yet he's built a career out of it.
 

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Augustus Gloop said:
Nicky Butt. He's from Gorton. ;)
I see. If you thought he was our best player that day we are obviously talking about a different game. Maybe your view is blinkered somewhat by his former allegience to Man utd. I thought he played as he always has doe in a black and white shirt, utter toss! This view supported by the fact when he was substituted on 60 mins(?), he recieved a hero's welcome from the home fans and nothing but boo's from the small contingent of Toon fans in the corner. It must be embarrassing for true Man utd fans to see 70,000 muppets sit and make no noise whatsoever, then for half these muppets to leave with ten minutes to play even when your winning 2-0!

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Sorry there was one chant of easy, easy, easy after the second goal went in. Originality like this must be complimented!

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Blinkered? Not sure about that. Your midfield was even worse after he went off. Although it was pretty poor beforehand.

As for the support it's pretty much like that apart from the big games or when someone turns up and gives us a game. CL nights also. Away days are still the best if only because we still get the faces from the red army days there and some of the FC bods.

I'm not sure the self appointed best supporters in the land are the best judge of those who follow other teams though. Might be an idea to start getting behind your team/the players on the pitch as opposed to taking your tops off and singing some shite about removing your shoes if you love the Toon. ;)

Just wanted to get that in.

Mind you they're not as bad as the Celtic or Rangers fans. A truly unpleasant bunch and some of the worst I've ever seen at OT. Be a while before someone beats the Dippers though. Should be some fun and games a week on Sunday.

I've actually been ejected from OT for nearly kicking off on someone who attempted to start the easy chant. farking horrendous and very small time.
 

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:)

I admit we were shocking that day. Playing a defensive formation when you can't defend is suicidal.

The only reason we wouldn't get behind our players is for one reason and one reason only. That is that wearing the black and white shirt means absolutely nothing to them* and this attitude is displayed in their performance on the pitch.

Sir nicky of gorton obviously has no passion for football since leaving man utd as displayed by his antics last season at Blues and also his complete mare performance in the cup semi final against your boys two seasons ago when he deemed it appropriate to have a laugh and a joke with his former teammates after the 4-1 defeat and then completely ignore his 'own fans'. This kind of behaviour is unforgivable and if that means booing him when i've paid £44 to watch that shower, then i will!!

*luque, boumsong, butt, viana, bowyer, kluivert, babayaro, could go on.
 

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Hugo Viana - potentially had it all. Is he still at Valencia?

The list of your full backs is quite amusing Carr, Bernard, and Babayaro. All awful. Mind you that lad Taylor is pretty decent and Ramage has some potential. Such a pity the comedy that is Bramble rolls out when fit and you have a disruptive beer guzzling idiot like Moore commanding a shirt too.

Luque's a strange one though. Tremedous at Deportivo but played out of position. Never a winger but was used there to help out during injuries. When Newcastle bought him they continued to play him out wide yet he's a centre forward? Although it's clear he hasn't settled off the field and wants a move back to Spain.

You needed to sort the defence out this Summer but as per the club goes and splashes out £10million on a sprinter. He'll have his moments but it could have been spent better elsewhere. Signing the City reject doesn't send out the best signal either, you've got Rossi on loan until January and speaking to a few supporters a while back he's already shown more promise than the lazy Frenchman. He won't get a game though and will be back to us in the winter window.
 

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Viana had amazing technique but wasn't suited to the english game plus he didn't want to be here. I think it is hard for portugese/spanish players to adapt to the english game as it is played in such a different style to theirs. Players over here tend to do unconventional things like run, tackle and stay on their feet. This seems a difficult task for some overseas players. Luque did look good in spain, but not 10 million good and he certainly isn't the kind of player we needed. Martins again is undoubtedly quick but his first touch is nowhere near 10 million value!

I would have been happy with Andy Johnson or Dean Ashton but we made no attempt to sign either. Signing siberski who looks pretty slow and useless was almost an admission of us failing. We should have been after defenders in the summer as well as a striker but again this didn't happen. Titus is only young and will mature into a great defender one day..... erm sorry thats bollocks, he's 25 and a complete and utter carthorse who barely knows what he or anyone around him is doing on a football pitch!

I agree that taylor and ramage show promise. They are not world beaters but they have the one thing that counts, passion. As for Rossi, he looks quick and skilful but has hardly been played yet!! WHAT'S THE farking POINT IN SIGNING HIM FOR THEN??
 

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I'm not quite convinced Duff's a good idea either, although for £5million you can't complain. Doesn't look fit atm and that could lead to further injuries. Something that has been hampering his career for the past year or two.

Dean Ashton is a quality player, as is Johnson. Same goes for Darren Bent. We spent the whole Summer being linked to the vastly overrated Torres. Half of that money could have been spent on one of the above. May not have been the 'world name' some would have wanted but I'd put money on them doing a better job in the Premier League than mullet man or some fat waster like Adriano.

Rossi's a superb talent, Roeder's argument that him and Martins can't play together doesn't rub with me I'm afraid. The argument that a team needs a target man and a little forward is something I'd expect in the 80s not now. Get the ball on the ground and play for loves sake.

However after forking out on a new CF, Sibieski and Ameobi showing the odd glimpse it's not going to send out the right message to supporters if Roeder starts a young kid who we've sent out to develop before returning to us. Mind you he shouldn't give a feck. If he's better than the other options, and whilst I want comment on that I will say he'd bring a different dimension to your attack, he should start. Technically he's superb, he's got vision too and he can score goals. Hardly slow either.
 

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Duff has been invisible for the last three games. Weather he is fit or not i don't know but he need's to improve. The irony with Ameobi is that in the absence of God he is playing better than ever and this with a hip injury that is gonna rule him out for 3 months when it's operated on. I hope rossi gets a run soon as he does look exciting and hell do we need some of that atm.
 
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