Today I Read (and Learned) ...

Mudgie

Well-Known Forumite
Too much pop again @Mudgie ?

Try re reading AGAIN.
No, I don't drink pop and, yes, I've read it again.
Dark, masked and getting hungry for a while doesn't portray how "horrifying" the stench of rotting horses and comrades was to those who were actually there.
 

littleme

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No, I don't drink pop and, yes, I've read it again.
Dark, masked and getting hungry for a while doesn't portray how "horrifying" the stench of rotting horses and comrades was to those who were actually there.
Thank god there were no rotting horses & comrades in the air raid shelter then.....

...& If you think that would be a fitting experience for school children, you are very very wrong.

The experiance was about a air raid shelter....for the umpteenth time.

... I can see why so many people have your posts blocked.
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
All sorts of other endings were possible - a German empire in Europe and north Africa, plus what we used to call the Near East. Russia and Japan 'sharing' Asia, although the Japanese were provoking the Russians all the time. The US staying out of it and being satisfied with their New World empire - until somebody reneged on the arrangements.

A Vichy-style government in the UK must have looked a distinct possibility from the Berlin perspective.

If the Germans and the Russians (and the Japanese) had played nicely with each other, that was the end of any resistance in the Old World.

Etc...


The Germans sometimes estimated the number killed in air raids by measuring the depth of the ash layer remaining in air raid shelters.
 

Mudgie

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Thank god there were no rotting horses & comrades in the air raid shelter then.....

...& If you think that would be a fitting experience for school children, you are very very wrong.

The experiance was about a air raid shelter....for the umpteenth time.

... I can see why so many people have your posts blocked.
Of course I wasn't suggesting "that would be a fitting experience for school children", but in no way does what amounts to not much more than inconvenience even hint at the horrors of war, but maybe if that's all that's taught then it's no surprise that 'our' government's regular military interventions abroad aren't subjected to the scrutiny they deserve.
My "I'm not sure that re enactment days in schools properly portrays the "horrifying" nature of war" suggested its limitations but, as I thought would be obvious, did NOT mean schoolchildren should be subjected to the horrendously traumatic realities of warfare which would of course be entirely inappropriate and cruel.
 
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Mudgie

Well-Known Forumite
All sorts of other endings were possible - a German empire in Europe and north Africa, plus what we used to call the Near East. Russia and Japan 'sharing' Asia, although the Japanese were provoking the Russians all the time. The US staying out of it and being satisfied with their New World empire - until somebody reneged on the arrangements.

A Vichy-style government in the UK must have looked a distinct possibility from the Berlin perspective.

If the Germans and the Russians (and the Japanese) had played nicely with each other, that was the end of any resistance in the Old World.

Etc...


The Germans sometimes estimated the number killed in air raids by measuring the depth of the ash layer remaining in air raid shelters.
I'm fascinated by tek-money's and your comments.
So much can, and should, be learnt from history.
All the anniversaries of when "we" won the war tend to neglect the fact that that wouldn't have happened without our troops from the Empire, the Russians and the US deciding to intervene.
 
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tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
I'm fascinated by tek-money's and your comments.
So much can, and should, be learnt from history.
All the anniversaries of when "we" won the war tend to neglect the fact that that wouldn't have happened without our troops from the Empire, the Russians and the US deciding to intervene.
History from the opposite border to Germany is all new to me and I'm finding it fascinating. I took photos of pretty much every information board in the occupation museum, am happy to share the album link here if anyone wants to read the Latvian perspective?
 

littleme

250,000th poster!
Of course I wasn't suggesting "that would be a fitting experience for school children", but in no way does what amounts to not much more than inconvenience even hint at the horrors of war, but maybe if that's all that's taught then it's no surprise that 'our' government's regular military interventions abroad aren't subjected to the scrutiny they deserve.
My "I'm not sure that re enactment days in schools properly portrays the "horrifying" nature of war" suggested its limitations but, as I thought would be obvious, did NOT mean schoolchildren should be subjected to the horrendously traumatic realities of warfare which would of course be entirely inappropriate and cruel.
🙄🙄🙄
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Please xx

Be aware the lighting was weird, so some photos are worse than others. There was distinct blue and red lights over certain sections, can't remember if it denoted Nazis and Soviet occupation, or maybe blue was Stalin and red the next guy? I'll look into that.

The photos are more sparse after they regain independence as that section was on the stairs and upper floor, in much brighter lights that reflected badly but looking down on what came before. I rather liked the design/layout.
 

basil

don't mention the blinds
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proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Come the next election my MP is at the moment looking likely to be Gavin Williamson. Utter, utter twat that he is. I hope the predictions are wrong. 😢
 
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