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Traffic Lights on J14 M6
- Thread starter Miss Red
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The northbound exit slip is shorter that any in that stretch of motorway and what makes it worse is the lack of view until you have committed to the junction. There is a 70 mph speed limit on the exit and if the traffic is backed up because of the silly lights. It don't take a rocket scientist to work out whats going to happen. The 30 limit does not take effect until you clear the junction at the bottom. So a little thought by friends of cat and they would have not even bothered.
John Marwood
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shoes
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In all fairness if your car cannot brake from 70 to a stop in that time then it would fail an mot. If you cannot see that far to the end of the slip road and therefore where you must give way you would not be granted a driving licence. I am not really a fan of these traffic lights, I hate stopping and expending fuel accelerating again unnecessarily but I cannot agree with you on that one.staff4ord said:
JM - I normally leave home at 0825 or thereabouts, travel along beaconside and then over J14 towards creswell, so one would imagine I hit junction at around 0835-0840 most mornings. Possibly too late/early for the school run? (I don't have kids, I don't know how the school run works).
Back to work on tuesday, I shall make a point of checking to make sure I haven't been floating around in a small bubble, as this is more than possible!
henryscat
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Is it?staff4ord said:
You should be driving at a speed where you can stop in the distance you can see.
A limit is the maximum speed, not an instruction to drive at that speed regardless. Single track lanes have a limit of 60mph, doesn't mean it's safe to drive at that speed.
So, have you seen this happen yet?
What will happen is as the off slip gets busier, the green times can be extended to stop a significant queue building. No qualification in astro-physics required to work that out.
What is going to happen then?
John Marwood
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Neat edit
"In all fairness if your car cannot brake from 70 to a stop in that time then it would fail an mot."
I presume then your one of those people when faced with a situation you'll just slam on your brakes and hope the mot test station did a good job. Have you forgotten about water, which make road surfaces slippery. After a few dry days when we get a little shower there is a build up of grease on a road surface is a nightmare.
Do you not consider diesel spilt from HGV's that creates an ice rink. Moving into the winter micro climates on shaded areas of road, areas that have not been gritted causing an ice rink and of course fog.
A little short sighted comment there son, if you think that it will all be fine, keep looking in your rear view mirror and leave a gap from the car in front because some muppet will be coming sideways down that slip road towards you.
I presume then your one of those people when faced with a situation you'll just slam on your brakes and hope the mot test station did a good job. Have you forgotten about water, which make road surfaces slippery. After a few dry days when we get a little shower there is a build up of grease on a road surface is a nightmare.
Do you not consider diesel spilt from HGV's that creates an ice rink. Moving into the winter micro climates on shaded areas of road, areas that have not been gritted causing an ice rink and of course fog.
A little short sighted comment there son, if you think that it will all be fine, keep looking in your rear view mirror and leave a gap from the car in front because some muppet will be coming sideways down that slip road towards you.
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At the risk of sounding like henryscat all the situations you have mentioned here should factor into your driving and affect your approach speed to the sliproad and lights. If they don't and a collision occurs the responsibility is yours alone.staff4ord said:
Not a massive fan of lights like these for the reasons that shoes just wrote about but can't say that on the dozen or so times I've had to go through them they've struck me as an accident waiting to happen.
shoes
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No I've never had an accident, own fault or otherwise and have covered a LOT of miles. My ten year old focus with no ABS could stop in half that distance if asked without breaking a sweat. Being a responsible driver I ensure my brakes are in good working order at all times, and actually do pretty much all mechanical work on my car myself, with confidence it is done properly. Your argument is invalid.staff4ord said:
Water makes roads marginally more slippy, presumably you have tyres with decent tread on your car? If not it would fail an MOT. Your argument is invalid.
Diesel and ice on the slip road would probably do something like quadruple the braking distance so even if it was the longest slip road in the country it would still not allow you time to stop. Your argument is invalid.
Fog does not increase braking distance one iota. Your argument is invalid.
I look in my rear view mirror regularly, and always leave appropriate distance to the car in front, as well as keeping my speed in check. If someone is hurtling down the slip road towards me there is not a great deal I can do about it, other than move out of the way as best I can - although I have absolutely no idea how any of this has relevance to the topic. Your argument is invalid.
I think that covers it.
Florence
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I went through there for the first time yesterday, and can't see wht the problem is. You have to break for the roundabout, so you are decelerating as you come off the motorway, and sometimes there is a small queue of traffic to get onto the roundabout.
You only have to look at the road and respond to what you see.
Junction 16 has lights on it, and I've only seen one fatality there in almost 4 years...
You only have to look at the road and respond to what you see.
Junction 16 has lights on it, and I've only seen one fatality there in almost 4 years...