zakkwylde87 said:
henryscat said:
Driving isn't as expensive as it should be. The cost of a car use to the driver do not cover all the costs that car use imposes on the state. In real terms the cost of driving has changed very little in decades. At the same time bus and rail fares have risen above inflation year on year. It isn't the driver who is being penalised.
Was waiting for that! What a suprise.... Strange anti driving/anti driver orientated response from henryscat. Although agree about bus and rail fares.
Sofa is right. It costs me £3.40 to go to town and back. If i go to the Yard on a Tuesday it's £1.50 a pint. So i can have still have two pints and have 40 pence change from the equivelant bus fare! Now thats not right...
Always amusing that I get accused of being anti-driving - I'm not, I have a car.... But, I am anti too much driving and driving when not particularly necessary. Neither do I stick my head in the sand about the real costs of driving.
What I said is a statement of fact. Cost of driving has barely risen in real terms, public transport fares in the same period have gone up about 80% in real terms. The facts do not support the argument that drivers are being "penalised". If anything bus/rail users are.
Also, drivers do not pay the full costs of their journey - statement of fact, not anti-car. If you add up the costs paid by drivers to the state - excise duty, fuel duty, VAT it does not cover the costs driving imposes. Costs imposed are: cost to economy of congestion (i.e. lost time, inefficient vehicle use, increased fuel use), infrastructure costs, emergency service costs, cost of accidents (including loss of life and loss of income), cost of accidents to NHS, cost of pollution effects to NHS.
On another subject, why anyone would want to drink in the Yard beats me....