Whats going on in the field next to the castle?

Tilly

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The land next door to the golf course is for the golf course extension.

The golf course owners were hoping to do the golf course on the cheap by charging people to dump spoil on the site, which in turn would then be landscaped to provide a golf course.

Unfortunately for the golf course owners work has largely ground to a halt because they are not getting enough spoil.


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markpa12003

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I have no idea what you are suggesting by your comment but your post confirms what I said, which was the owners of the golf course are bringing spoil onto the site as part of the landscaping works for the new golf course.
 

basil

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The course isn't being improved, a new one is being built. You do talk half story shite Basil, especially if it's new members. What about those of us who have been members forever?

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Withnail

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I have no idea what you are suggesting by your comment but your post confirms what I said, which was the owners of the golf course are bringing spoil onto the site as part of the landscaping works for the new golf course.
Which is not actually what you said in full, which was -

The land next door to the golf course is for the golf course extension.

The golf course owners were hoping to do the golf course on the cheap by charging people to dump spoil on the site, which in turn would then be landscaped to provide a golf course.

Unfortunately for the golf course owners work has largely ground to a halt because they are not getting enough spoil.
- which is manifestly wrong, unless we have all magically gone back in time * checks time * which we appear not to have done.

Whilst true that the dumping side of the operation suffered a setback due to the post-2008 slow down in destruction/construction nationally that would have provided this material - a factor in itself that led to the shit-dumping - it is very much not true that the 'developers' want for spoil today. Or, for that matter, for the last two to three years (or more?), which has seen a huge ramping up of material being dumped at this site.

Unfortunately for the golf course owners, but very much fortunately for the soi dissant golf course builders, this has been facilitated by a change in the conditions placed on Luddington, whereby a time limit placed on them for the dumping phase in their initial planning application was lifted, exactly because of their previous difficulties obtaining the requisite amount of 'spoil'.

Now they are in a position that means they -
  1. have no restrictions on how much 'spoil' they can take as a dump - which makes them money
  2. have an obligation that doesn't seem to have any time frame at all to build a golf course - which will cost them money
I'm no businessman, but i'm reckoning they'll concentrate more on the dumping side of their operation for as long as they can get away with it, don't you?
 

Tilly

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markpa12003

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Which is not actually what you said in full, which was -


- which is manifestly wrong, unless we have all magically gone back in time * checks time * which we appear not to have done.

Whilst true that the dumping side of the operation suffered a setback due to the post-2008 slow down in destruction/construction nationally that would have provided this material - a factor in itself that led to the shit-dumping - it is very much not true that the 'developers' want for spoil today. Or, for that matter, for the last two to three years (or more?), which has seen a huge ramping up of material being dumped at this site.

Unfortunately for the golf course owners, but very much fortunately for the soi dissant golf course builders, this has been facilitated by a change in the conditions placed on Luddington, whereby a time limit placed on them for the dumping phase in their initial planning application was lifted, exactly because of their previous difficulties obtaining the requisite amount of 'spoil'.

Now they are in a position that means they -
  1. have no restrictions on how much 'spoil' they can take as a dump - which makes them money
  2. have an obligation that doesn't seem to have any time frame at all to build a golf course - which will cost them money
I'm no businessman, but i'm reckoning they'll concentrate more on the dumping side of their operation for as long as they can get away with it, don't you?

I expect the owners will continue to accept waste until they've got as much as they need to extend the golf course. The owners are currently in a win win situation. They are getting to paid to accept waste, which is then helping them to achieve their aim of getting richer and extending the golf course.

Time will tell...
 

Dronesquad

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From a personal point of view, I would like to know why they are allowed to create so much dust in the air that warrants my car to be cleaned every third day. We were promised by a local councilor that this would not happen again. There has been a lot of activity lately, with lorrys actually cuing from the road to get on the site. I have taken videos of them kicking up dust "clouds". Goodness knows if it will achieve anything
 

Tumble weed

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I'm pretty sure that's not allowed, and there's someone meant to be constantly watering the place down to stop the spread of dust. Maybe speak to the council again ?
 

Withnail

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I'm pretty sure the 'developers' couldn't give less of shit even if they tried really hard to give a shit less than they already don't.

Having already contravened the conditions placed upon their initial application and, rather than receiving any admonishment, then being granted new fantastically favourable conditions to proceed...

Having already been given orders to remove illegal waste from the site by the EA - a national rather than local supervisory body, mind - that they've yet to comply with, and receiving the sum total of zero punishment for non compliance...

Do you honestly think that they think they'll be taken to task about kicking up some dust?

The only certainty about this whole venture is that it'll end in tears.

They'll be those from laughter at Luddington, not so much from us.
 

Tilly

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I'm pretty sure the 'developers' couldn't give less of shit even if they tried really hard to give a shit less than they already don't.

Having already contravened the conditions placed upon their initial application and, rather than receiving any admonishment, then being granted new fantastically favourable conditions to proceed...

Having already been given orders to remove illegal waste from the site by the EA - a national rather than local supervisory body, mind - that they've yet to comply with, and receiving the sum total of zero punishment for non compliance...

Do you honestly think that they think they'll be taken to task about kicking up some dust?

The only certainty about this whole venture is that it'll end in tears.

They'll be those from laughter at Luddington, not so much from us.


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