New McDonalds/Drive thru planned for the Hough Retail Park - not happy

Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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c0tt0nt0p said:
Give it a few years and I bet they'll try to build one on the new development on Weston road past the police headquarters....
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..or by the traffic lights at the top of Weston Road..

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1JKz

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For me, having one there would be even worse than the one they've got planned/past for planning/past planning ready to build.
 
John Marwood

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Gramaisc said:
If only - it's been there a while, I believe. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/mcdonalds-opens-at-guys-1563608.html

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?sll=51.507715,-0.0876705&sspn=0.010257,0.0219729&q=mcdonalds guy's hospital&ie=UTF8&hq=mcdonalds&hnear=&ll=51.504339,-0.087201&spn=0.000354,0.000603&t=h&z=21&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=51.504339,-0.087201&panoid=RKaCV6IyfkrINx-6MCf0-A&cbp=12,235.04,,0,-6.01
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Guy's hospital in south London became the first in Europe to offer staff and patients a McDonald's burger on site, when a 115- seat restaurant opened. Sir Philip Harris, chairman of Guy's, said: 'This is in keeping with our trust charter commitment to improve conditions for staff.' Jimmy Kikozi, Guy's senior caterer, said: 'I imagine we will now see people wearing happy hats around the hospital.'


Reassuring innit..

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littleme

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John Marwood said:
That looks disgusting and is extremely sad

No doubt some chief exec has managed to justify it in some insane way?

Or is it just a trick of the light?

:barf: :?:
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At least its not 'Guys Hospital, sponsored my McDonalds' - although with the state of the NHS it can't be far off...
 
Noah

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John Marwood said:
I would be interested in your source of legal information on this one
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10% is normally the maximum that libraries allow you to copy or will copy for you, however -

http://library.leeds.ac.uk/info/138/copyright_and_licences/55/copyright-the_basics/4

"Fair dealing for non-commercial research and private study

A certain amount of copying is allowed for non-commercial research and private study.

Although the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act does not clearly define the amount of original material that can be copied, the Society of Authors issued guidance in 1965:

  • one article from any one issue of a journal (even if that one article is the whole issue)

  • one chapter or up to 5% (whichever is greater) of a book or similar publication

  • up to 10% of a short book of up to 200 pages (CILIP, formerly Library Association, guidelines)

  • one poem or short story of up to 10 pages from an anthology, or

  • the report of one case in law reports.
You may make a copy for yourself or make a single copy for another person. Fair dealing does not cover the making of multiple photocopies, which can only be done under licence (if you are a member of staff), or with the permission of the copyright owner.

Fair dealing applies to literary, dramatic, musical, artistic or typographical works, not just text-based works. However, it does not cover the copying of printed music.

Fair dealing for criticism or review

The Society of Authors advises that permission need not be sought for short extracts provided that the content is quoted in the context of "criticism or review" and not just to embellish the text. The material you use should have been published, the amount you include should not exceed that which you need for the critique or review, and you must acknowledge the source.

If you want to quote from prose (fiction or non-fiction):

  • not more than 400 words

  • or a total of 800 words in a series of extracts, none exceeding 300 words.
If you want to quote from poetry:

  • not more than 40 lines from a poem, providing that this does not exceed a quarter of the poem."
Alternatively others may have other views -

https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_dealing_in_United_Kingdom_law

http://www.channel4.com/producers-handbook/c4-guidelines/fair-dealing-guidelines

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/library/services/copyfair
 
LLFC

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Reference: 14/21103/FUL
Alternative Reference:
Address: Land At The Hough Retail Park Lichfield Road Stafford Staffordshire
Proposal: Restaurant with associated drive-thru takeaway, accesses, car parking and landscaping; installation of two customer order displays and canopies; associated works
Status: Application Permitted
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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Noah said:
10% is normally the maximum that libraries allow you to copy or will copy for you, however -

http://library.leeds.ac.uk/info/138/copyright_and_licences/55/copyright-the_basics/4

"Fair dealing for non-commercial research and private study

A certain amount of copying is allowed for non-commercial research and private study.

Although the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act does not clearly define the amount of original material that can be copied, the Society of Authors issued guidance in 1965:

  • one article from any one issue of a journal (even if that one article is the whole issue)

  • one chapter or up to 5% (whichever is greater) of a book or similar publication

  • up to 10% of a short book of up to 200 pages (CILIP, formerly Library Association, guidelines)

  • one poem or short story of up to 10 pages from an anthology, or

  • the report of one case in law reports.
You may make a copy for yourself or make a single copy for another person. Fair dealing does not cover the making of multiple photocopies, which can only be done under licence (if you are a member of staff), or with the permission of the copyright owner.

Fair dealing applies to literary, dramatic, musical, artistic or typographical works, not just text-based works. However, it does not cover the copying of printed music.

Fair dealing for criticism or review

The Society of Authors advises that permission need not be sought for short extracts provided that the content is quoted in the context of "criticism or review" and not just to embellish the text. The material you use should have been published, the amount you include should not exceed that which you need for the critique or review, and you must acknowledge the source.

If you want to quote from prose (fiction or non-fiction):

  • not more than 400 words

  • or a total of 800 words in a series of extracts, none exceeding 300 words.
If you want to quote from poetry:

  • not more than 40 lines from a poem, providing that this does not exceed a quarter of the poem."
Alternatively others may have other views -

https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_dealing_in_United_Kingdom_law

http://www.channel4.com/producers-handbook/c4-guidelines/fair-dealing-guidelines

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/library/services/copyfair
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Thanks for taking the time

Anything other than a direct quote from the Act becomes irrelevant in law so it is interesting how various bodies interpret their own understanding

No mention of the Shoes pixel count - it has to be one pixel

The so-called orphan works is controversial given the high number of zombies wandering the streets

I find deep annoyance when a a british government follows legislation set by an american government

The public rarely see the copyright act from the position of those who earn their living from writing , the loudest voices usually win over when it comes to changes in the law. People are greedy and...

...crucially, the self serving interest of the legislators is the norm in a faux democracy

Norm and Wisdom
 
1JKz

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tek-monkey

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markpa12003

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I hope not! I'm always surprised about the number of parents that take their children to McDonalds. When I was a child, I considered it a treat. As an adult I rarely go to McDonalds. For me, it's not somewhere that I would choose to take my child for a meal.

I'd rather pay a little extra and wait a little longer and get a better / healthier meal.
 
c0tt0nt0p

c0tt0nt0p

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daz100 said:
Is this still happening?
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If you mean the McDonalds at the Hough Retail park then I would expect so...theres a fair bit of pre-work that will be needed (such as a new service lane for deliveries to the retail park....planning gives them 3 years to make a start so I doubt they will be in a rush...
 
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Tumble weed

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The town centre one closes after Christmas afaik for it to be given a facelift. There were planning notices on the front but they've since blown away. Seemed to suggest the whole front being redesigned and the restaurant expanded forwards, as well as new doors, Windows n cladding.
 
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