That vegan thread.

1JKz

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https://www.mylkman.co.uk/

One day i'll again have a milk man* deliver my milk, handy and good for the environment, what's not to like.
Unless it's possible now, in Stafford?
I'm not talking getting a big shop from Sainos, i'm talking someone delivering my almond milk; hazlenut milk (or whatever) to my doorstep, that isn't also part of a cow enslaved dairy farm.


*OK OK, milk person; milk monitor, whichever works.
 

1JKz

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Recent visit to Woolpack in Weston.

Not too bad, nice enough place and they have vegan options, so they are trying.
I had the Ultimate veggie burger, no need to go XL if you're thinking about it!
It was nice, worth a try if you're in the area.

https://www.woolpackpubweston.co.uk/
 

Mikinton

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Recent visit to Woolpack in Weston.
We went to the Woolpack last September I think. The meal was nothing to write home about which is probably why I didn't post anything at the time; I'd likely have damned it with faint praise. Anyway, I probably had something with meat, so maybe the veggie/vegan offerings are a bit better.
 

Withnail

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Who are the questions aimed at?
At the assumptions of the video you just posted - one assumed you'd watched it.

Perhaps you had not?

... i've seen many a head cut from a broccoli, it's a great sight, i've watched it steamed and many times i've seen them boiled.
Which wasn't the point.

The video you posted suggested that because the 'production' of animals for consumption was not somehow 'open' and available to view, because it was somehow 'hidden', nefarious practises must be at play.

I am merely suggesting that in a 'developed' economy - where something of the order of 1% of the entire economically productive workforce are employed in the agricultural sector, and probably about 15 - 20% of that 1% are economic migrants who are probably not actively giving a shit - it might not be entirely surprising that your 'average Joe' don't know where their agricultural 'produce' comes from.

Be it fair or fowl.

It was a shit video created by a vacuous soundbite machine.

There are better arguments, and you are no @henryscat
 

1JKz

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At the assumptions of the video you just posted - one assumed you'd watched it.

Perhaps you had not?


Which wasn't the point.

The video you posted suggested that because the 'production' of animals for consumption was not somehow 'open' and available to view, because it was somehow 'hidden', nefarious practises must be at play.

I am merely suggesting that in a 'developed' economy - where something of the order of 1% of the entire economically productive workforce are employed in the agricultural sector, and probably about 15 - 20% of that 1% are economic migrants who are probably not actively giving a shit - it might not be entirely surprising that your 'average Joe' don't know where their agricultural 'produce' comes from.

Be it fair or fowl.

It was a shit video created by a vacuous soundbite machine.

There are better arguments, and you are no @henryscat
Sounds like you're angry, who are you angry at?
 

1JKz

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Go on, surprise yourself (and others!) and give it a go!

https://www.worldmeatfreeweek.com/

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1JKz

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https://www.mylkman.co.uk/

One day i'll again have a milk man* deliver my milk, handy and good for the environment, what's not to like.
Unless it's possible now, in Stafford?
I'm not talking getting a big shop from Sainos, i'm talking someone delivering my almond milk; hazlenut milk (or whatever) to my doorstep, that isn't also part of a cow enslaved dairy farm.


*OK OK, milk person; milk monitor, whichever works.
I've heard that they're aiming to get a nationwide distributor, so hopefully in the not so distant future...
 

Entropy

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Saw in the Albert & Lion Wetherspoons in Blackpool (the one under the tower) at the weekend that their Heinz Baked Beans were not Vegan friendly......had a fancy word 98 printed document to display on the bar too...
 

kyoto49

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https://www.mylkman.co.uk/

One day i'll again have a milk man* deliver my milk, handy and good for the environment, what's not to like.
Unless it's possible now, in Stafford?
I'm not talking getting a big shop from Sainos, i'm talking someone delivering my almond milk; hazlenut milk (or whatever) to my doorstep, that isn't also part of a cow enslaved dairy farm.


*OK OK, milk person; milk monitor, whichever works.

See, I love the idea of this, and I'm a vegan, but I can 100% understand why your average family could never financially support this type of artisan business. Even buying Alpro and supermarket dairy alternative 'milks' works out significantly more expensive than dairy milk.

If only cruelty to animals was a surcharge on the products produced from such cruelty then the playing fire;d might be levelled. As dairy milk consumption declines farmers are forced to cut margins even further, with the inevitable decline in welfare for the poor cows, just so they can compete on price. Big supermarkets also culpable for milk being cheaper than water :(

Love the idea of nut drinks being delivered, not sure it will ever make mass market unless prices reduce significantly mind!
 

1JKz

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See, I love the idea of this, and I'm a vegan, but I can 100% understand why your average family could never financially support this type of artisan business. Even buying Alpro and supermarket dairy alternative 'milks' works out significantly more expensive than dairy milk.

If only cruelty to animals was a surcharge on the products produced from such cruelty then the playing fire;d might be levelled. As dairy milk consumption declines farmers are forced to cut margins even further, with the inevitable decline in welfare for the poor cows, just so they can compete on price. Big supermarkets also culpable for milk being cheaper than water :(

Love the idea of nut drinks being delivered, not sure it will ever make mass market unless prices reduce significantly mind!

With the decline in dairy milk consumption, rather than farmers cutting margains further (as they have been for years now for milk to be so cheap), the already cash-strapped diary farmers eventually see it's not financially viable to keep cows, at all.

Surcharge on cruelty (leading to an out right ban), now that's a great idea!
 
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