Waitrose in Leek to close.

littleme

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6 stores to close with a loss of 700 jobs, plus the non-opening of 7 proposed stores - sad times.
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
Whilst Waitrose do sell some lovely food, the prices are at a premium compared to other supermarkets. At this moment in time, price is a big deciding factor for a lot of folk.
 

proactive

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I'd be lost without Waitrose in Newport. That and Stafford Aldi and Lidl are the only supermarkets I EVER go to.
 

kyoto49

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Whilst Waitrose do sell some lovely food, the prices are at a premium compared to other supermarkets. At this moment in time, price is a big deciding factor for a lot of folk.

And a very sad indictment that is. People will happily pay hundreds a months for beer, TV packages, smoking, other hobbies and the Internet, but won't spend on decent food to keep themsleves healthy :(. Good food, ethically raised meat and quality produce cost money to produce.................you get's what you pay for!!!
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
@kyoto49 People also have to buy what they can afford.

Wages haven't increased very much (if at all) since the crash of 2008, Sterling has tanked since the Brexit vote and is pushing up food prices (along with lots of other things) so a lot of people probably can't actually afford to by higher quality foodstuffs. It's not a case of people not wanting better quality food, more that people cannot actually afford it.

And Waitrose has always been a premium supermarket compared to others.
 

citricsquid

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ethically raised meat

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kyoto49

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@kyoto49 People also have to buy what they can afford.

Wages haven't increased very much (if at all) since the crash of 2008, Sterling has tanked since the Brexit vote and is pushing up food prices (along with lots of other things) so a lot of people probably can't actually afford to by higher quality foodstuffs. It's not a case of people not wanting better quality food, more that people cannot actually afford it.

And Waitrose has always been a premium supermarket compared to others.


But as a proportion of income the cost of food has dropped dramatically in recent times even including the few pence Brexit and other factors have added on recently. My point remains; people consistantly choose TV packages, fags, alcohol, lottery tickets, fashion clothes etc etc over good quality food. Spending on food is less than 10 % of disposable income for most people so there is no reason not to buy good quality food, no reason at all. it's far more importants than the other things I've suggested which people spend hundreds of pounds on each month........
 

kyoto49

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You don't always get what you pay for - sometimes, you just pay a higher price.

Aldi and Lidl, despite being "discount retailers", pay their staff, in general, better than their higher-priced competitors do.

It's a complicated issue.

I don;t disagree, but alot of what they sell is processed. Aldi was regulary blasted for adding transfats to it's processed foods. I think this has now changed, but the quality of their processed foods is lower. For fresh fruit and veg they can't be beaten though. And they pay their staff very well.
 

Gramaisc

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I don;t disagree, but alot of what they sell is processed. Aldi was regulary blasted for adding transfats to it's processed foods. I think this has now changed, but the quality of their processed foods is lower. For fresh fruit and veg they can't be beaten though. And they pay their staff very well.
The European Parliament has voted 586 to 19 (with 38 abstentions) to introduce EU-wide measures to reduce TFA exposures*. Denmark, Austria, Hungary and Latvia already have their own legal limits. UK, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Poland and Greece have "voluntary measures" to reduce use, for what use they may be.

The FDA in the USA has declared that TFAs are no longer "generally recognised as safe" in human food - and they are to banned there from June 2018 - whether that will still happen is another matter, of course.


* of course, that won't bother us here....

No doubt they will sell what is legal, and what people will buy, in a manner which is profitable for them.

It is notable that neither Aldi nor Lidl sell any tobacco products. Although, I suspect that this is more about not having an employee tied up continuously, rather than a moral or health-related stand.
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
But as a proportion of income the cost of food has dropped dramatically in recent times even including the few pence Brexit and other factors have added on recently. My point remains; people consistantly choose TV packages, fags, alcohol, lottery tickets, fashion clothes etc etc over good quality food. Spending on food is less than 10 % of disposable income for most people so there is no reason not to buy good quality food, no reason at all. it's far more importants than the other things I've suggested which people spend hundreds of pounds on each month........
It's far more than a few pence.

You know, people are allowed to spend their money on exactly what they want to. If that is TV or cigarettes or alcohol or even, god forbid, clothes so they don't walk round in rags or even naked, then that is their prerogative.

I don't know anyone who spends less than 10% of their income on food. I certainly don't.
 

Carole

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And a very sad indictment that is. People will happily pay hundreds a months for beer, TV packages, smoking, other hobbies and the Internet, but won't spend on decent food to keep themsleves healthy :(. Good food, ethically raised meat and quality produce cost money to produce.................you get's what you pay for!!!

What a load of tosh.

You are so judgemental.

I cook my meals from scratch most days but won't be ripped off by paying £2 for one tomato. (Waitrose)

If people are so deluded that they think that by paying double means that are getting bettter quality then good luck to them

The rest of us have cottoned on to Lidl and Aldi.
 

John Marwood

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And a very sad indictment that is. People will happily pay hundreds a months for beer, TV packages, smoking, other hobbies and the Internet, but won't spend on decent food to keep themsleves healthy :(. Good food, ethically raised meat and quality produce cost money to produce.................you get's what you pay for!!!

It's certainly a valid point to question how people use their finite resources, often either in ignorance or denile, particularly in relation to the overwhelmed NHS

Alcohol and meat and smoking cause cancer. Of that there is no doubt . As does a lethargic lifestyle sat in front of a TV or screen

So to say that one cannot afford good quality fresh produce is often but not always directly related to unwise priority spending

Just because the food and drinks lobby have Parliament in their sticky palms it is no good reason to put the blame elsewhere

Grow your own TV station from seeds, this can be done in a window box if you live in a flat.
Rear your own miniature cattle farm by planting a pint of milk in a shoe box of hay.
Dive 10 kilometers to the bottom of an underwater sea trench to collect a free tin of spam.

Doing nothing is an option

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Lucy

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I am sure I spend less than 10% of my income on food, so that's more like 5% of our joint income. We eat very well, but why shop at Waitrose when I can get stuff of as good quality much cheaper. Makes no sense at all. Brand snobbery is often deluded.
 

kyoto49

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It's far more than a few pence.

You know, people are allowed to spend their money on exactly what they want to. If that is TV or cigarettes or alcohol or even, god forbid, clothes so they don't walk round in rags or even naked, then that is their prerogative.

I don't know anyone who spends less than 10% of their income on food. I certainly don't.

They are, but it's a bit rich complaining that food is expensive when the very people who moan about such a thing then spend many times more per month on non essential luxury goods. Can you not see that?

Well that's what the research suggests people spend. I spend more like 25% of my disposable income, but we eat alot of expensive fruits and such!!
 
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