Petition to stop Staffordshire Bull Terriers being added to dangerous dog act

captainpish

captainpish

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Are you seriously comparing a jack to a staffie? Im guessing you dont do logic? Im sure even a chihuahua could serously damage a one week old, however theres not many dogs that could tear the throat out of a grown man putting up a fight. Thats the difference.
 
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gilesjuk

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Obviously the larger the mouth the more damage it can do.

But this is all part of the "nanny state" where people are expecting the state to keep them safe. This ultimately leads to ignorance and a lack of ability to judge risk.

You should read the PDF No Risk: Growing up in a risk averse society. There's a PDF of it on the web, it makes the case that wrapping people up in cotton wool only leads to them doing themselves more harm later on because they can't judge risk. This is why you get idiots doing drugs and driving at 100mph, ultimately killing themselves.
 
basil

basil

don't mention the blinds
Reportedly majority of serious dog v human attacks including fatalities are suffered by ........

You guessed it ' children of the owners family'....
 
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c0tt0nt0p

c0tt0nt0p

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basil said:
Q. Are dogs a potential risk ?

A. Yes

Q.Would dogs muzzled reduce that risk ?

A.Obviously....
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We've had a retired greyhound since January and we have a muzzle on her both when we are out of the house or taking her a walk. For her (and most greyhounds) it's a comfort blanket, as they are used to them....
 
kyoto49

kyoto49

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c0tt0nt0p said:
We've had a retired greyhound since January and we have a muzzle on her both when we are out of the house or taking her a walk. For her (and most greyhounds) it's a comfort blanket, as they are used to them....
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Why would u muzzle her when u are out of the house? What if she vomits ? How does she get drinking water? I get the muzzle when she is out but in the house when u aren't in attendance what if she has a problem? Not agreeing with that. I've owned a rescue greyhound so understand the breed but can't think of a single reason to muzzle a dog in the house. In fact I'm not even sure it doesn't amount to cruelty. Or do you mean when she is out of the house not when u are? Apologies if so.

Staffies? I take what Tia Maria Torres says about these bull breeds thanks. She's met more of them that all of you combined..

"Take note that a fight can strike suddenly and for no apparent reason "

"It is not necessarily a hate of other dogs that will cause Pit Bulls to fight, but rather an “urge” to do so that has been bred into the breed for many generations. Pit Bulls may fight over hierarchic status, but external stimulus or excitement can also trigger a fight. Remember that any canine can fight, but Pit Bulls were bred specifically for it and will therefore do it with more drive and intensity than most other breeds."

And before anyone jumps in, pit bull for Tia is any pit, staff or mix of these.

They should be classed as dangerous.

http://www.vrcpitbull.com/pit-bull-facts/
 
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c0tt0nt0p

c0tt0nt0p

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kyoto49 said:
Why would u muzzle her when u are out of the house? What if she vomits ? How does she get drinking water? I get the muzzle when she is out but in the house when u aren't in attendance what if she has a problem? Not agreeing with that. I've owned a rescue greyhound so understand the breed but can't think of a single reason to muzzle a dog in the house. In fact I'm not even sure it doesn't amount to cruelty. Or do you mean when she is out of the house not when u are?
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No you read right when we are out of the house and she is in. Lets be clear we are talking about a basket muzzle and not a soft muzzle.

Drinking isn't an issue as they are used to it. For our dog (and lets be crystal clear ALL dogs are different) its something she it is comfortable with and welcomes. She has a habit of counter surfing and the muzzle stops her going for anything too large, although she did consume 3 peaches (and stones) through said muzzle.
 
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kyoto49

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c0tt0nt0p said:
No you read right when we are out of the house and she is in. Lets be clear we are talking about a basket muzzle and not a soft muzzle.

Drinking isn't an issue as they are used to it. For our dog (and lets be crystal clear ALL dogs are different) its something she it is comfortable with and welcomes. She has a habit of counter surfing and the muzzle stops her going for anything too large, although she did consume 3 peaches (and stones) through said muzzle.
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I really think this is cruel and unnecessary tbh. My grey used to counter surf badly, I just kept the counters clear. A dog uses its mouth and teeth for all sorts of things and muzzling prevents this. I'm not even sure if it wouldn't amount to cruelty, depriving a dog of water for hours. I'd need to check but I'm pretty sure dogs must have access to water at all times? The comfort thing is habit, it's what she has had inflicted for so long she expects it. That doesn't make it any less cruel. And if she vomits she could suffocate.
 
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c0tt0nt0p

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kyoto49 said:
I'm not even sure if it wouldn't amount to cruelty, depriving a dog of water for hours. I'd need to check but I'm pretty sure dogs must have access to water at all times?
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She has a water bowl and drinks from it even with the muzzle on...
 
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