anpr camera

[captainpish]

i did think the tinfoil hat comment was pretty strange given that it is all common knowledge and in the public domain. Its a bit stupid to call it a "conspiracy theory".

 

[Gramaisc]

I think 'they' spread the tinfoil hat thing - I believe that it actually amplifies your brainwaves, so that 'they' can read them at an even greater distance.

 

[captainpish]

"They" cannot read anything once you wear a tinfoil hat. Too many creases that scatter the thought amplifying beams.

 

[Gramaisc]

"They" cannot read anything once you wear a tinfoil hat. Too many creases that scatter the thought amplifying beams.

 

[biccies]

Most people dont realise that there is pretty much nothing they dont know about every single one of us whoever "they" are. Everything you have ever bought on a card, every communication you make electronically, what you look like, where you like to socialise, who your friends are, what music/films etc you like (last few submitted yourself via facebook)what you eat, where you work, how much you earn, how much tax you paid, where you are at any given time (via triangulated signal ) even remote access to your computers is do-able thanks to intel and the CIA , where your car is (via anpr at roadside) the list goes on and on. Makes it very hard for me to believe that terrorists in this country cant be effectively identified, monitored and stopped.

i did think the tinfoil hat comment was pretty strange given that it is all common knowledge and in the public domain. Its a bit stupid to call it a "conspiracy theory".

Riiiight. I'm the stupid one for thinking that your list of unsubstantiated claims reads very much like a conspiracy theorist's wet dream. It's very possible that all of the above is true but without any facts behind it it is, by very definition, a conspiracy theory.

 

[tek-monkey]

To be fair an awful lot of people voluntarily put all that info onto the internet themselves!

EDIT: Hmm, that should have linked straight to 15:10 in where the #privacy article was.

 

[captainpish]

Riiiight. I'm the stupid one for thinking that your list of unsubstantiated claims reads very much like a conspiracy theorist's wet dream. It's very possible that all of the above is true but without any facts behind it it is, by very definition, a conspiracy theory.

I cant be arsed to find links but if you know how to use google you will find that they are fact. A lot of it has been in the news over the last year or so due to whistleblowers releasing the information such as mr snowdon. It has been well known for many years that the gathering of electronic data globally by the CIA has been taking place, only recently the extent of their activity has been made public. i suggest you remove your tinfoil hat and stop pretending its 1950.

 

[That-Crazy-Rat-Lady]

Sorry to bust in - but who cares?

I feel sorry for the poor sod who has to listen in to the banal conversations I have with my mother about the rising cost of Andrex...

I think the only people who need worry are those who have something to hide?

If your not doing anything wrong then who cares who's watching/ listening?

Am I missing something?

 

[Gramaisc]

Sorry to bust in - but who cares?

I feel sorry for the poor sod who has to listen in to the banal conversations I have with my mother about the rising cost of Andrex...

I think the only people who need worry are those who have something to hide?

If your not doing anything wrong then who cares who's watching/ listening?

Am I missing something?

The only real problems that I see are 'their' ability to deal with all the information competently and 'their' tendency to sometimes 'be seen to be doing something (anything)' - such as interviewing people under caution when they've put their son on eBay for a laugh, and taking 18 months to get round to doing it...

 

[That-Crazy-Rat-Lady]

Technology has moved so fast in the last 20 years and is creating so much 'data' that I think humans are struggling to keep up with the sheer amount of information it can produce.

But as far as I can see - you do the crime, you pay the time - simplez.

 

[Laurie61]

For me it's a civil liberties thing, we seem to have drifted from investigating/collecting data on folks because there is a good reason, and a reasonable chance of prosecution, to just harvesting, randomly, all info that can be obtained on everybody just because it is now technically feasible and comparatively cheap. Their does not appear to have been any conversation that, as a society, this is something we want or are happy being imposed.

 

[proactive]

For me it's a civil liberties thing

Civil liberties have always been largely a fiction. People have always been able to spy on us in one form or another, technology makes it that bit easier, that's all.

For most of human history, well over the last couple of thousand years anyway, we (ordinary citizens) haven't had any liberty whatsoever.

My main worry is what G posted, that what info they glean will be dealt with incompetantly.

 

[John Marwood]

In the olden days the Royal Mail used to deliver your mail

Now Google not only deliver your mail they also open it before you get it, take a look around, sell on the contents, and stuff it back into your folder, whilst at the same time doing the same to any reply.


Pigeon, anyone?

 

[biccies]

I cant be arsed to find links but if you know how to use google you will find that they are fact. A lot of it has been in the news over the last year or so due to whistleblowers releasing the information such as mr snowdon. It has been well known for many years that the gathering of electronic data globally by the CIA has been taking place, only recently the extent of their activity has been made public. i suggest you remove your tinfoil hat and stop pretending its 1950.

Well the part of your original post that got my attention was the comment "even remote access to your computers is do-able thanks to intel and the CIA". I did some searching before making my post as I hadn't heard this one before. The only relevant pages I could see were from The Daily Mail and a website called Popular Resistance.
I'm not ignorant to the fact that data is being gathered by intelligence agencies around the world, I'm aware of Mr Snowdon, Assange and other related stories; I find them all very interesting.

You make the claim that "there is pretty much nothing they don't know about every single one of us".
I'm not suggesting that data is not gathered about all of us, I'm more than sure that it is. The UK's Data Retention laws make for an interesting read. What I do contest, however, is that they "know" everything about us. I don't believe that this information is centrally stored nor do I believe "they" have a file on each and everyone of us.

 

[John Marwood]

Well the part of your original post that got my attention was the comment "even remote access to your computers is do-able thanks to intel and the CIA". I did some searching before making my post as I hadn't heard this one before. The only relevant pages I could see were from The Daily Mail and a website called Popular Resistance.
I'm not ignorant to the fact that data is being gathered by intelligence agencies around the world, I'm aware of Mr Snowdon, Assange and other related stories; I find them all very interesting.

You make the claim that "there is pretty much nothing they don't know about every single one of us".
I'm not suggesting that data is not gathered about all of us, I'm more than sure that it is. The UK's Data Retention laws make for an interesting read. What I do contest, however, is that they "know" everything about us. I don't believe that this information is centrally stored nor do I believe "they" have a file on each and everyone of us.

Next thing you will be telling us you don't believe in fairies!




(Snowden)

 

[Gramaisc]

Next thing you will be telling us you don't believe in fairies!

There used to be a lot of fairies in MI5 and MI6, back in the old days....

 

[Gramaisc]

Only buy phones that you can pull the batteries out of....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31587621

 

[John Marwood]

Only buy phones that you can pull the batteries out of....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31587621

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/