Well I was in the Rose and Crown this afternoon enjoying a pint of Blonde, it was busy with drinkers aged 30 upwards and was a pleasant atmosphere and struck up a good conversation with two guys. Sometimes the R & C can be a bit too quiet but can be classed as a quality pub alongside The Sun and The Stafford Ale house and for the ladies The Swan and The Post House are smart places to enjoy
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Are people from Stafford just rude?
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wmrcomputers
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Been a bit too busy planning for the festivities and have missed alot of this thread.
@tek - I totally agree with much of what you have said and times have certainly changed since the colloseum!
What is nice to read though is that despite our own well entitled views about Stafford nightlife (I myself don't really see the town at nights these days for my own opinionative reasons), there are several forumites who aren't Stafford born-n-bred that can remind us that there ARE nice people here and that there is always worse places to live. I've no doubt at all that wherever I chose to live in this country i still probably wouldn't hit the town in the evenings now. I had about a 6 month stint living in Blackpool 8 years ago. Not even during peak season... and believe me it made me realise that Stafford aint all that bad after all!
@tek - I totally agree with much of what you have said and times have certainly changed since the colloseum!
What is nice to read though is that despite our own well entitled views about Stafford nightlife (I myself don't really see the town at nights these days for my own opinionative reasons), there are several forumites who aren't Stafford born-n-bred that can remind us that there ARE nice people here and that there is always worse places to live. I've no doubt at all that wherever I chose to live in this country i still probably wouldn't hit the town in the evenings now. I had about a 6 month stint living in Blackpool 8 years ago. Not even during peak season... and believe me it made me realise that Stafford aint all that bad after all!
db
#chaplife
this seems to have become a thread about alcohol/binge-drinking turning the people of stafford into evil morons, but tbh part of me agrees with the initial sentiment - i have had so many people (from various parts of the country) comment that stafford natives seem, at least, a bit standoffish, regardless of alcohol 
we moved here from northern ireland, and my parents right away found it a bit alien.. just little things, like no-one talks to their neighbours, etc.. my dad would say "hello" to passers-by in the road, but after the twentieth-or-so strange "why are you talking to me?" look he stopped doing that..
where i work, we have people from stafford, stoke, and surrounding areas, and most of the latter seem to agree with the above sentiment when questioned.. my boss is stoke born-and-bred, but has lived in stafford for decades now, and she regularly comments that she finds staffordians a bit brusque..
so yeah, i love stafford, have lived elsewhere and couldn't wait to move back here, and can guarantee i will never leave again - but i do agree that us staffordians seem to be a bit more surly than others! i'm guilty of it myself - i don't speak to my neighbours, for example, and i basically hate people in general
on a different note - it's nice to see that this thread turned into a decent discussion, when it could so easily have become a "bash the newbie who's slagging off stafford" affair!
we moved here from northern ireland, and my parents right away found it a bit alien.. just little things, like no-one talks to their neighbours, etc.. my dad would say "hello" to passers-by in the road, but after the twentieth-or-so strange "why are you talking to me?" look he stopped doing that..
where i work, we have people from stafford, stoke, and surrounding areas, and most of the latter seem to agree with the above sentiment when questioned.. my boss is stoke born-and-bred, but has lived in stafford for decades now, and she regularly comments that she finds staffordians a bit brusque..
so yeah, i love stafford, have lived elsewhere and couldn't wait to move back here, and can guarantee i will never leave again - but i do agree that us staffordians seem to be a bit more surly than others! i'm guilty of it myself - i don't speak to my neighbours, for example, and i basically hate people in general
on a different note - it's nice to see that this thread turned into a decent discussion, when it could so easily have become a "bash the newbie who's slagging off stafford" affair!
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
But maybe not quite as rude as the wife beating, smoke bomb thowing, ginger streaking people of
Hednesford?
Hednesford?
henryscat
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Nah, that's Prospect Village...
I have given this thread a bit of a wide berth due to some of the ridiculous of some of it, but thought I'd give my 2 pence worth.
Some do like to have a Stafford bashing and say nothing but negative and don't weigh up 2 sides, I do feel some need to experience a little time out of town. I have only ever witnessed minor scuffles with a few idiots in the town (and this town as a few), not saying that is the worse there is but in comparison to other areas. But the town has establishments that are just delightful and a couple of places I don't frequent when I am here because they don't look the most welcoming. But this supposed ducking and diving up the high street to avoid trouble, I find very much melodramatic.
If anyone would like to experience real trouble they should experience the delights of Walsall, Newcastle under Lyme and Cannock, their Saturday night trouble makers have been well documented recently. As a previous poster added, Telford is a good place to avoid, the extent of trouble here seems beyond belief. (Not even going to include Brum and Wolves)
But instead of news reports etc I will add my actual own experience in the last year:
-Newport seeing an elderly couple jumped and set about on by a dozen 20 somethings, who proceeded to run through the town causing damage to shop windows, a Wednesday night
-Hanley, been out twice in 12 months, left twice on both occasions due to witnessing mini riots with police etc, trouble here so bad the Council think it is to threatening for the average good person to enjoy a night out in the area.
-Leek, the closest town to me. A couple of Sundays ago my partner and I were making our way back to catch a taxi home at the bus station. Walking down the high street we heard the kicking of a door. The Bargain Booze on the High Street was taking a kicking by some 30 somethings wanting more booze, because I had naturally looked up these 3 idiots followed us both hurling abuse and beer cans at us.
Is Stafford really bad, NO!!!
But to the real point of the thread.
First off, no Stafford people are not RUDE. I am not rude, my family and friends are not rude and those I work with are not rude. Sure Stafford people have their rude persons of course and so does every single town, village, city and hamlet up and down the country. What I think is rude is someone tarring Stafford people in general over an instance that someone seems a little oversensitive with.
I am 6ft 5in and have never, ever in my life had issues with my height and name calling, neither have my family or friends, and with the exception of 6/7 years I have spent my entire life in Stafford, I am not over the hill yet but I am getting there, so that shows my age a little For someone who has been much travelled over recent years I have to say I have never experienced this anywhere with the exception of people who are merry stating the damn obvious (mainly women), silly but harmless.
My partner who is from Cambridge adores Stafford and she hated going out in her town as she felt unsafe. She loves the town so much we have frequented a night out regularly in the last year, weekends, weekdays etc. Staying at the Swan, The Vine, Premier, Holidays Inns or with friends.
Not one bit of trouble have we seen walking up and down town, sometime getting back to our sleeping quarters at around 2.30am. Having only just get a house near Leek only a year ago, we will be moving to Stafford within the next year because the what the Mrs wants.
Stafford is not the best place on earth, but some on here would make you think it is hell on earth. Everyone rightly should have their say, but I am someone who weights things up with a little perspective, some saying never experience this and that elsewhere.. well it just isn't a believable story or more time is needed to spend elsewhere..
From someone who left Stafford to do the rounds, I can assure you Stafford, as a whole is a darn decent and lovely place to live.
Some do like to have a Stafford bashing and say nothing but negative and don't weigh up 2 sides, I do feel some need to experience a little time out of town. I have only ever witnessed minor scuffles with a few idiots in the town (and this town as a few), not saying that is the worse there is but in comparison to other areas. But the town has establishments that are just delightful and a couple of places I don't frequent when I am here because they don't look the most welcoming. But this supposed ducking and diving up the high street to avoid trouble, I find very much melodramatic.
If anyone would like to experience real trouble they should experience the delights of Walsall, Newcastle under Lyme and Cannock, their Saturday night trouble makers have been well documented recently. As a previous poster added, Telford is a good place to avoid, the extent of trouble here seems beyond belief. (Not even going to include Brum and Wolves)
But instead of news reports etc I will add my actual own experience in the last year:
-Newport seeing an elderly couple jumped and set about on by a dozen 20 somethings, who proceeded to run through the town causing damage to shop windows, a Wednesday night
-Hanley, been out twice in 12 months, left twice on both occasions due to witnessing mini riots with police etc, trouble here so bad the Council think it is to threatening for the average good person to enjoy a night out in the area.
-Leek, the closest town to me. A couple of Sundays ago my partner and I were making our way back to catch a taxi home at the bus station. Walking down the high street we heard the kicking of a door. The Bargain Booze on the High Street was taking a kicking by some 30 somethings wanting more booze, because I had naturally looked up these 3 idiots followed us both hurling abuse and beer cans at us.
Is Stafford really bad, NO!!!
But to the real point of the thread.
First off, no Stafford people are not RUDE. I am not rude, my family and friends are not rude and those I work with are not rude. Sure Stafford people have their rude persons of course and so does every single town, village, city and hamlet up and down the country. What I think is rude is someone tarring Stafford people in general over an instance that someone seems a little oversensitive with.
I am 6ft 5in and have never, ever in my life had issues with my height and name calling, neither have my family or friends, and with the exception of 6/7 years I have spent my entire life in Stafford, I am not over the hill yet but I am getting there, so that shows my age a little
For someone who has been much travelled over recent years I have to say I have never experienced this anywhere with the exception of people who are merry stating the damn obvious (mainly women), silly but harmless.My partner who is from Cambridge adores Stafford and she hated going out in her town as she felt unsafe. She loves the town so much we have frequented a night out regularly in the last year, weekends, weekdays etc. Staying at the Swan, The Vine, Premier, Holidays Inns or with friends.
Not one bit of trouble have we seen walking up and down town, sometime getting back to our sleeping quarters at around 2.30am. Having only just get a house near Leek only a year ago, we will be moving to Stafford within the next year because the what the Mrs wants.
Stafford is not the best place on earth, but some on here would make you think it is hell on earth. Everyone rightly should have their say, but I am someone who weights things up with a little perspective, some saying never experience this and that elsewhere.. well it just isn't a believable story or more time is needed to spend elsewhere..
From someone who left Stafford to do the rounds, I can assure you Stafford, as a whole is a darn decent and lovely place to live.
Well not un-necessarily anyway! 
monkey bidness
Well-Known Forumite
I have been reluctant to join in this thread because I am still just a 'blow-in' having arrived in Stafford only 33 years ago.
I think that the most perspicacious observation made so far has been Darben's 'Old Fable' on Monday (Xmas Eve). Nowadays described as the 'Self-fulfilling Prophesy', naturally it does not take into account gobshites, chavs and drunken knobheads. Nevertheless it is a useful guide to managing the many relationships & encounters we all have to negotiate every day.
Are Stafford People Rude? No! only the small, stupid sample you have had the misfortune to encounter. Crummy people like these gravitate towards gatherings of their own kind. Left to themselves they will most likely inflict harm on each other. My advice is to stay away from the sort of places which harbour them, the chances are that the proprietors of these venues are no better than their customers.
Rant over.
Season's Greetings!
I think that the most perspicacious observation made so far has been Darben's 'Old Fable' on Monday (Xmas Eve). Nowadays described as the 'Self-fulfilling Prophesy', naturally it does not take into account gobshites, chavs and drunken knobheads. Nevertheless it is a useful guide to managing the many relationships & encounters we all have to negotiate every day.
Are Stafford People Rude? No! only the small, stupid sample you have had the misfortune to encounter. Crummy people like these gravitate towards gatherings of their own kind. Left to themselves they will most likely inflict harm on each other. My advice is to stay away from the sort of places which harbour them, the chances are that the proprietors of these venues are no better than their customers.
Rant over.
Season's Greetings!
rbellamy
Well-Known Forumite
I can relate to this, but I can't explain it. However, I always say hello to my neighbours - even if they seem to want to ignore me. I do this because I am damned if they will turn me into someone just as rude as them. Politeness costs nothing and if nothing else, I like to think I'm setting a good example of what basic decent manners are. Fortunately, my current neighbours are polite and will pass the time of day, but they would never engage in conversation. Doesn't bother me at all, but it still seems strange, as where I originally came from (only 10 miles away) there was much more of a sense of community.
monkey bidness
Well-Known Forumite
As you do, I say hello (or nice day, howareyou etc) and am happy to receive a similar response. I would be worried if they wanted to 'engage in conversation' as more than likely ,
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monkey bidness
Well-Known Forumite
Bugger! Where was I? ... As more than likely I would not really have much to say ( don't have a great deal of small talk and don't want to get too profound with virtual strangers) or I am heading somewhere for an appointment for which I am already late. Anyway even the non- neighbours whom I greet are quite polite and often smile back.
db
#chaplife
actually, this is a good & important distinction to make.. my original post said i agreed with the sentiment of the OP, but actually gareth's post would be more accurate imo.. it's not that stafford people are rude - that would suggest they are deliberately bad mannered and mean - more that they are a bit standoffish and can be a little more surly!
i definitely agree that stafford is miles ahead of most other places in terms of low levels of violence, general animosity on the street, etc.. as mentioned before, i used to live in sheffield and couldn't wait to get back to cosy, warm, insular, keep-yourself-to-yourself stafford
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
I know Stoke is a bit of a hole, but if I was travelling for a night out it wouldn't be to Stafford!
Sometimes it's worth asking outsiders looking in. Sounds as if Hanley is a bit rough but I've heard good reports of Burslem with a number of decent pubs there.Stone strikes me as a decent place to go with a number of restruants but never had a night out so can't comment.
As mentioned above Stafford has a variety of watering holes that attract different type of people and I'm sure my 'Moon Over the Water' wouldn't suit everyone (good job because I wouldn't get to the bar).
