Armed robber gets away with a slap on the wrist

CreamCake

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I'm speechless, what an insult to the very brave victim.

Plucky Stafford shopkeeper praised for her bravery as teenage would-be robber is sentenced

A TEENAGE would-be robber who confronted a Stafford shopkeeper and her seven-year-old daughter with a sawn-off shotgun has been spared jail.

Jack Phillips was 17 when he burst into Bassi and Sons in Rickerscote Road, waving a shotgun and threatening Ranvir Bassi and her girl, who were alone in the shop.

But brave Mrs Bassi, 37, refused to be cowed and managed to get Phillips, now 18, out of the shop.

Today at Stafford Crown Court Mrs Bassi’s courage was praised by Recorder Michael Elsom, who awarded her £500.

“It seems a paltry sum and it seems to me the very least I can order,” he said. “What she did brought about your eventual apprehension.”

Phillips, originally from the Stafford area but now living at Laburnum Road, Middlesborough, admitted at an earlier hearing attempted robbery, possession of a prohibited firearm and possession of a prohibited firearm with intent to commit an aggravating offence.

Today he was given two years’ custody in a young offenders’ institute, suspended for two years. He was also ordered to do 240 hours’ unpaid work and will be subject to an electronic curfew, between 10pm and 8am each day, for the next four months.

Mr Elsom described the case as “exceptional”

“There must be no doubt in anybody’s mind that what you did on November 4 (2013) was a very dangerous thing indeed,” he said.

“It was a terrifying experience, particularly for the young person. The gun you had in your hand was quite incapable of being fired but (Mrs Bassi) wouldn’t have known that, neither did her daughter.

“What you did on November 4 was done under the direction of others more criminally experienced than yourself. You are a person particularly susceptible to pressure – that provides you with no defence.

“Because of your age I have to have in mind the desire and need to prevent you committing further offences.

“In my judgement, this is a case where I can deal with you and not deprive you of your liberty today. It seems to me much more would be achieved of a positive nature (with a sentence) which allows you to remain in the community where you have made your home, a community where you will be able to keep out of trouble and away from the people who drove you to commit this dreadful offence.”
 

My Name is URL

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“What you did on November 4 was done under the direction of others more criminally experienced than yourself. You are a person particularly susceptible to pressure – that provides you with no defence.

What an absolute fu**ing DISGRACE!!!! (apologies for the swearing but I think this deserves it....)

As for the quote above... I'm sure then if this poor little cherub was forced into this crime, that we will soon see prosecutions for these other people then, as no doubt Mr Phillips cooperated fully with the police in giving them up then....
 

The Hawk

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Any serious crime that involves violence, or the threat of violence, should carry a sentence of a MINIMUM of 10 years inside.
 

proactive

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I'm sure the do-gooders and hand-wringing types on here will rejoice at such a fair sentence.

Personally, seeing as this little scrote obviously has nothing positive to contribute to society, I'd be happy for the state to put him out of our misery, permanently.

Oh and the judge should be sacked and lose his pension for complete incompetence.
 

shoes

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Can't beat a bit of soggy leftie 'justice' eh? I imagine he's just misunderstood and needs a hug.

Has anyone else been prosecuted for this crime? No doubt Alan B'stard will be a long in a moment to have a moan about my POV, however, I don't see any problem with all necessary information for the prosecution of these others to be extracted by any means necessary.
 

Gramaisc

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Can't beat a bit of soggy leftie 'justice' eh? I imagine he's just misunderstood and needs a hug.

Has anyone else been prosecuted for this crime? No doubt Alan B'stard will be a long in a moment to have a moan about my POV, however, I don't see any problem with all necessary information for the prosecution of these others to be extracted by any means necessary.

I'm not sure that the others have been identified, although somebody presumably knows who they are.
 

My Name is URL

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Exactly as shoes says, if the guy is claiming a defence / mitigation from "I was forced to do it by these big nasty men" then he should be forced to name names or else his claims should be treated as a load of old bullcrap and he should be sentenced as if it was all down to him alone.
 

Withnail

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“In my judgement, this is a case where I can deal with you and not deprive you of your liberty today. It seems to me much more would be achieved of a positive nature (with a sentence) which allows you to remain in the community where you have made your home, a community where you will be able to keep out of trouble and away from the people who drove you to commit this dreadful offence.”

I'm sure the do-gooders and hand-wringing types on here will rejoice at such a fair sentence..
Can't beat a bit of soggy leftie 'justice' eh? I imagine he's just misunderstood and needs a hug.
Well i'll have a crack...

Sometimes you do have to wonder what a custodial sentence would serve. You on the 'hang 'em/ flog 'em' side of the fence stick to your 'hang 'em/flog 'em'' as much as you want, in this country the punishment we dish out, as i have reminded time and time and etc, is loss of liberty. You tend to go on and huff and puff that these people have x boxes and televisions, rather than oakum picking and transportation, without wondering whether the custodial sentence you yourselves so deride might be the best option.

It does seem a bit more than odd that what is essentially armed robbery, regardless of the dud weapon, should attract such an apparently lenient sentence. Perhaps there were aspects of the case that have not been reported? Perhaps there were mitigating factors that the presiding Judge was convinced by. None of us were at the trial - or were we? - who can say for sure what may or may not be a reasonable settlement of the affair?

This 'do-gooder', 'soggy leftie' bollox is nothing more than a trope to hinge everything to a certainty that doesn't exist.

In the Judge's judgement "this [was] a case where I can deal with you and not deprive you of your liberty".

I only have one experience of dealing with someone who was serving a 'community sentence' - the chap was a plumber, and i'm afraid i never knew what he had been 'done' for. One thing i can tell you is that he really did do his time - he properly hated every minute of it. Partly, one suspects, because he knew how much money he could have been making if what he was made to do for nowt had been paid for. Even when he hadn't anything to do, which tbf was quite often, he still had that kind of crestfallen look of one who was losing, losing, losing the money that he could be earning if he hadn't had to be there.

I appreciate that that is a somewhat extreme example, but i hope you'll appreciate that it is the only example that i have personal experience of. There must be many, many more situations where a community sentence is a more appropriate one than a custodial one.

Admittedly i'm finding it a little bit difficult to believe that what is, to all intents and purposes, armed robbery, is one of those situations, but it might be a better outcome for all of us if the chap doesn't go to jail after all?
 

CreamCake

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Yet a bloke gets two years for dangerous driving...... (Quite right too)



Paul Mansell was spotted by police driving a Rover at speed in Stephenson Avenue, Walsall, just before 1am on May 23, Wolverhampton Crown Court was told. Officers unsuccessfully tried to stop the car being driven by the 30 year old, of no fixed address.

Mr Kevin Jones, prosecuting, said after the vehicle left a traffic island it was travelling at speeds of 60mph in a 30mph zone.

Officers unsuccessfully attempted to stop the car. The court heard that the 30-year-old, of no fixed abode, then travelled around another traffic island the wrong way and on the wrong side of the road.

Mr Jones said the car travelled towards oncoming vehicles and caused a HGV driver to carry out an emergency stop.

The court heard it had been travelling in the region of 50mph and went through traffic lights on Green Lane when they were amber.

The car, which then proceeded into Croft Street, stopped and reversed into the police car on several occasions.

Mr Jones said a decision was eventually taken to stop the pursuit. However Mansell was tracked down by officers a short time later and arrested. Mr Jones said: “The damage to the police vehicle was in the region of £3,000.”

Mansell pleaded guilty to dangerous driving and damaging property, gave no comment when interviewed by police. Mr Nigel Ford, mitigating, said the pursuit had taken place over a short distance which would have taken a few minutes to travel. He said Mansell could provide no answer as to why he had not stopped.

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