alphagamma
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It appears that the only people who do want to get rid of the building are the developer and the council (and Gareth?). Smells more fishy than Isaak Walton.
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Brooklands school to be replaced with care flats
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It appears that the only people who do want to get rid of the building are the developer and the council (and Gareth?). Smells more fishy than Isaak Walton.
alphagamma
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Planning website says demolition put back for three weeks. Plenty of time now for anyone who gives a tish to complain to our council.
Gramaisc
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Is it not that the only point in question now is the method of demolition?
John Marwood
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alphagamma
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How do we know what the method is? A few sticks of dynamite? No details on website
markpa12003
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That's right. I assume the developers have submitted a prior notification of demolition.
I saw workmen repairing the front boundary wall last week, which i thought was odd in light of the developers intention to demolish the building. I would have thought repairing the wall would have been one of the last jobs on the to do list.
alphagamma
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It's odder than that, because they first took down most of the wall (which didn't look as if it needed repairing), then rebuilt it much lower but with big pillars, which didn't match the 'retained wall' plans on the website. Looks like they have now reduced the pillars, leaving the wall half height.
Job creation scheme for masons (free or otherwise)? Or is it just that the real intention is to flatten the buildings and bank the site, like at Stone.
Job creation scheme for masons (free or otherwise)? Or is it just that the real intention is to flatten the buildings and bank the site, like at Stone.
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alphagamma
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A truly beautiful fence has appeared along the front of Brooklands.
Council Conservation Officer report on planning site:
The buildings are two formerly detached late 19th century houses
together with mid-20th century link; they are not listed, and for their age they would have to
be of exceptional architectural merit and completeness to be considered for listing; they do
not fall within a conservation area and the Council does not have a local list of buildings of
interest. However, they have significant local character.
They are well detailed and executed in typical late-Victorian “villa” styles: in rich orange
brick with stone detailing, robust classical door frames, false timber framing, a round turret
feature to the rear of 167 and a two storey bay window and prominent barge boarding to
169; they have group value and consistency within an attractive street scene of larger
detached suburban dwellings. It is considered that they have significant merit to warrant the definition of “Heritage Asset” as set out in Annex 2 of the NPPF.
The Design and Access Statement claims that the design has drawn inspiration from the
nearby Victorian villas but fails to assess the possibility of reusing the existing buildings
themselves, which are well-constructed and in a sound condition. The Planning Statement
says that the retention of the buildings is not viable but this is not based on any financial
analysis; it should be possible to retain and incorporate the buildings into the scheme; the
replacement is a routine brick and render, three-storey apartment block that fails to cohere
with its surroundings in terms of mass and siting, and lacks the detail of the Victorian
villas.
The opportunity to maintain the buildings and incorporate them within a new viable use has not been given due consideration under the criteria of paragraph 131 of the NPPF, and their demolition and replacement with a standard block of apartments would be harmful to existing local character and local distinctiveness.
The proposals also fail to satisfy Policy N9 of TPSB through the loss of locally significant
and distinctive architectural and historic detail and no consideration of the sustainable reuse
of the existing buildings.
Council Conservation Officer report on planning site:
The buildings are two formerly detached late 19th century houses
together with mid-20th century link; they are not listed, and for their age they would have to
be of exceptional architectural merit and completeness to be considered for listing; they do
not fall within a conservation area and the Council does not have a local list of buildings of
interest. However, they have significant local character.
They are well detailed and executed in typical late-Victorian “villa” styles: in rich orange
brick with stone detailing, robust classical door frames, false timber framing, a round turret
feature to the rear of 167 and a two storey bay window and prominent barge boarding to
169; they have group value and consistency within an attractive street scene of larger
detached suburban dwellings. It is considered that they have significant merit to warrant the definition of “Heritage Asset” as set out in Annex 2 of the NPPF.
The Design and Access Statement claims that the design has drawn inspiration from the
nearby Victorian villas but fails to assess the possibility of reusing the existing buildings
themselves, which are well-constructed and in a sound condition. The Planning Statement
says that the retention of the buildings is not viable but this is not based on any financial
analysis; it should be possible to retain and incorporate the buildings into the scheme; the
replacement is a routine brick and render, three-storey apartment block that fails to cohere
with its surroundings in terms of mass and siting, and lacks the detail of the Victorian
villas.
The opportunity to maintain the buildings and incorporate them within a new viable use has not been given due consideration under the criteria of paragraph 131 of the NPPF, and their demolition and replacement with a standard block of apartments would be harmful to existing local character and local distinctiveness.
The proposals also fail to satisfy Policy N9 of TPSB through the loss of locally significant
and distinctive architectural and historic detail and no consideration of the sustainable reuse
of the existing buildings.
John Marwood
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Make it a Penny Croft!!
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Tower 3
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Tower 3
alphagamma
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So one of the people responsible for letting this happen to a 'historic' building is sad about it. That's OK, then.
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/...ove-in-on-staffords-former-brooklands-school/
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/...ove-in-on-staffords-former-brooklands-school/
John Marwood
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It's been stolen
joshua
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Stolen eh ?, I wondered what that odd bulge was under your flasher mac, put it back now there's a good chapIt's been stolen
John Marwood
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It's begun...
alphagamma
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What has? Interesting letter from developer spotted on planning website...
" Along the boundary (inside of the hedge line) of 163 we have introduced a steel
hoarding system. The fencing will consist of 2.4m high corregated steel panels
clipped together held in place by weighted feet. I have attached a photograph to
illustrate the intended fence type. The reason for proposing this fence type is to avoid
breaking ground to install posts as we have identified asbestos fibres in the sub-base
of the tarmac playground."
Now look at permission document
Apparently it can cost £millions to clear the stuff, so someone forgot to do their homework. Terrible shame for the developer, eh?
John Marwood
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The truth the whole truth
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Surprised a diseased tree has to go on the old Brooklands site . I now of a few old relics that are diseased they are still in office and making decisions in this County and for far too long
alphagamma
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Most trees have fungus and can survive for decades. It's interesting that this one was decreed dangerous months ago but the council didn't bother preventing it from landing on someone's head.
John Marwood
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tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
So are the old buildings staying now?