Cycle gangs of Stafford?

Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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John Marwood said:
Or for that matter any motorist who parks on or half on a pavement - Twats - its not there to protect your hideously large wing mirrors you monkey brain, its made of softer tarmac (Tm) for starters and how am I supposed to take the baby triplets to the pub with you in the flucking way!
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Ah, but 'they' have made it compulsory on Corporation Street.

When did highways become car-parks anyway?.
 
Wormella

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gilesjuk said:
What about all the cars parked on the pavements blocking the cycle lanes, obscuring the view at junctions, making the pavements hard to use for wheelchair users or users of mobility scooters?

People like this idiot:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5146/5619860973_3d4ab97aca.jpg

There's a lot of really bad drivers, people who have been trained to drive and passed a test. People who should know better!
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Have a Skill point sir - The people that do this make me so angry...
 
Trumpet

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Another annoyance is people that park on Burton Manor Road. Shouldn't be a problem because it's a nice wide road but there are a few of those little central refuges with keep left signs on them and folks will park within about 20 feet of them so that you have to pull out round the parked car and then cut in sharply again. I've seen one car with it's wing mirror broken off twice in the last couple of months. Why park like that a second time when you've lost a mirror? Numpty.
 
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Mr J C

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It's not just young kids on bikes that are a danger - I was off to get one of the kids from Lichfield earlier and duly stopped for a red light at a pedestrian crossing when this age'd cyclist came up the inside of me and straight through the red light almost knocking a pedestrian over......I truly despair!!!!
 
Easttv

Easttv

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Beware car drivers, if you happen to touch a cyclist with your car you WILL be held responsible even if the cyclist is breaking every rule of the road - especially if you are travelling in the same direction.

Insurance companies will always pay out rather than go to court even if the cyclist is totally to blame.
 
henryscat

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Easttv said:
Beware car drivers, if you happen to touch a cyclist with your car you WILL be held responsible even if the cyclist is breaking every rule of the road - especially if you are travelling in the same direction.

Insurance companies will always pay out rather than go to court even if the cyclist is totally to blame.
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The majority of car/cycle accidents are the driver's fault. In Holland and other countries the law is that the car driver is automatically at fault unless they can prove otherwise. I suspect if we had that here, drivers might be that bit more careful around cyclists.
 
henryscat

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John Marwood said:
Or for that matter any motorist who parks on or half on a pavement - Twats - its not there to protect your hideously large wing mirrors you monkey brain, its made of softer tarmac (Tm) for starters and how am I supposed to take the baby triplets to the pub with you in the flucking way!


And breath....
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I bloody hate pavement parking there's no need for it at all, its just utterly inconsiderate. Half the time the gits have an empty driveway as well.
 
United57

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I was actually ran over by a cyclist in Holland. I was walking on the pavement. Oddly the strict liabilty that protects cyclists does not protect them when they crash in to pedestrians.
 
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gilesjuk

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United57 said:
I was actually ran over by a cyclist in Holland. I was walking on the pavement. Oddly the strict liabilty that protects cyclists does not protect them when they crash in to pedestrians.
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Simple, it's like a food chain. Pedestrians are the most vulnerable and need the most protection, cyclists next and then motorcyclists. Basically try to protect everyone from the cars and goods vehicles.

It's something like 60% of accidents involving cyclists are the motorists fault. So you can moan about cyclists jumping red lights and so on, but there's still more accidents that are due to licenced drivers.
 
Trumpet

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henryscat said:
Easttv said:
Beware car drivers, if you happen to touch a cyclist with your car you WILL be held responsible even if the cyclist is breaking every rule of the road - especially if you are travelling in the same direction.

Insurance companies will always pay out rather than go to court even if the cyclist is totally to blame.
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The majority of car/cycle accidents are the driver's fault. In Holland and other countries the law is that the car driver is automatically at fault unless they can prove otherwise. I suspect if we had that here, drivers might be that bit more careful around cyclists.
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But how many accidents between cyclists and motorists are avoided by the quick reactions of motorists to the young numpties that shoot out of side turnings without looking, ride without lights, jump red lights etc.
As I have said elsewhere before on here, I am most definitely not anti cyclist but an awful lot of these young idiots don't do themselves, or the cycling fraternity in general, any favours at all.
 
Vault_girl

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henryscat said:
John Marwood said:
Or for that matter any motorist who parks on or half on a pavement - Twats - its not there to protect your hideously large wing mirrors you monkey brain, its made of softer tarmac (Tm) for starters and how am I supposed to take the baby triplets to the pub with you in the flucking way!


And breath....
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I bloody hate pavement parking there's no need for it at all, its just utterly inconsiderate. Half the time the gits have an empty driveway as well.
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It is quite useful on the Cannock road with the 40 speed. The pavement is wide enough for two cars along most of it so it is just ridiculous when people park on the road and make the traffic flow slow as people try to get round them.

It's not great on thin footpaths though I agree.
 
Withnail

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Easttv said:
Beware car drivers, if you happen to touch a cyclist with your car you WILL be held responsible even if the cyclist is breaking every rule of the road - especially if you are travelling in the same direction.

Insurance companies will always pay out rather than go to court even if the cyclist is totally to blame.
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gilesjuk said:
Is that really true?

If you kill a person with a car these days you generally get let off lightly.
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BikeRadar has an interesting looking 'website of the week'
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This is where a site like UK Cycle Rules comes in useful. As the name suggests, it covers many of the questions that new – and even experienced riders – may have, such as Can you ride while using your mobile phone? and Can you lose your driving licence for a cycling offence? The man behind the site, Jorren Knibbe, is a life-long cyclist and his daily commute to work has helped him build up a curiosity for riding behaviour and rules.

It shouldn’t come as much of a surprise to learn he's a barrister by day, so thinking about rules and regulations comes pretty naturally
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http://ukcyclerules.wordpress.com/

Worth a look if you want to separate fact from f(r)iction.
 
Withnail

Withnail

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What can the police do if they catch you (if you have been drinking)?

The police don’t have the power to require you to take a breath test or provide samples, either on the road or anywhere else. They might ask, but you won’t commit an offence if you say no.

Similarly the police can’t require you to do “impairment tests”. They might ask, and the same applies – you can say no without committing an offence.

In both cases if you accept they can use it as evidence against you. Loving this site already.
 
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