Do you care about your kids education?

[shoes]

Holy sh*t. One step closer to our retarded generation?

Crackdown on school place cheats

I'm sooooo looking forward to seeing the end of this government, complete lunatics!

 

[tek-monkey]

Surely lying to get your kid into a better school deprives another kid of the place who may have lived closer? I think kids should go to the school closest, and reduce congestion.

 

[Monquey]

Holy sh*t. One step closer to our retarded generation?

Crackdown on school place cheats

I'm sooooo looking forward to seeing the end of this government, complete lunatics!

What's the problem? Government trys to curb fraud. The bastards!

 

[shoes]

The problem, in my opinion is two fold.

Firstly why do parents feel they have to make a choice or comit fraud in order to give their children the best education possible? After all of the money poured into eduation the fact we still have sub-par schools is unforgiveable.

Secondly there are a lot of parents out there who will go to this length because they want the best for their kids, and frankly they should be allowed to have access to whatever schools they want. Of course this is unacceptable because it means some of our youth might actually receive an education worth something, and we can't have that, can we?

And if the government wish to combat fraud then have a look closer to home. MPs expenses? Benefits? Our tax appropriation? Get your house in order before attacking somone elses. End of.

 

[gdavies]

I have 2 children and personally feel it is regardless of the school they go to if your child wants to learn it will if not then it won't as quickly, I send mine to a school which is low on numbers for children as I feel they deserve the support of other parents to keep the school open, Really don't why I should need to lie for my kids nor why I would have to pay for higher education with private schools when it is down to the child on how they learn.

 

[tek-monkey]

Sorry, but fraud is fraud is fraud. 2 wrongs don't make a right etc. Why should a parent from coton fields be allowed to get their kid into Walton, if it means some kid in Walton then has to go to Weston Road?

Sorry pal, I believe in completely geographic school placement, with bias attached to siblings school. The fact that some schools are crap does not give a parent the right to force another kid out of a good school to get theirs in.

 

[shoes]

Surely lying to get your kid into a better school deprives another kid of the place who may have lived closer? I think kids should go to the school closest, and reduce congestion.

I disagree, there are enough parents out there who don't give a shit about their kids' education and if we're honest those kids will never do well anyway so we may as well ship them into the sub par school and hold mcdonald's recruitment drives annually and then everyone else who's parents do what them to go to a good school can make a choice.

With regard to congestion, I'm all for forcing people to walk their kids to school or teach them to ride a bike. Or get a bus.

 

[Gramaisc]

I've said it before, I'm sure, but if you rely on schools for your education then you're on a loser from the beginning. I went to ten schools. The ones with the best 'reputations' had the highest percentage of wasters, who thought that they didn't have to try. Most of my real education occurred after school up the tip with my mates, roaming the countryside, in the scouts, reading books from the library, making things for myself, etc. I always went to the nearest applicable school - once it was over the garden wall, but the furthest was 20 miles.

I'm all for smug buggers who try to get one-up by swinging the system their way actually getting their come-uppance instead.

 

[tek-monkey]

Sorry shoes, but you assume that if a childs parents don't care enough to force them into the best school then those kids have no hope. I went to the closest school to where I lived, ended up with a degree. In fact I only left school with 3 GCSEs, but still got better educated than many of my peers.

 

[gdavies]

hence why i said its down to your child to get the education if they go to a great school and then decided they don't want to learn then they are not going too. Yes catchment areas should stay in place, But you should never lie to help your kids as what kind of example is that setting for that child then, not a good one that's for sure

 

[shoes]

Sorry shoes, but you assume that if a childs parents don't care enough to force them into the best school then those kids have no hope. I went to the closest school to where I lived, ended up with a degree. In fact I only left school with 3 GCSEs, but still got better educated than many of my peers.

weston road isn't really a bad school though is it?

anyway, whatever, not sure why i even care I don't / will hopefully never have children - i just have to pay into the kitty (as do you all) for abomination of 'service'.

more power to selective education, by ability not geography!

 

[shoes]

hence why i said its down to your child to get the education if they go to a great school and then decided they don't want to learn then they are not going too. Yes catchment areas should stay in place, But you should never lie to help your kids as what kind of example is that setting for that child then, not a good one that's for sure

Thats a fair point, although they'd never know

 

[tek-monkey]

weston road isn't really a bad school though is it?

anyway, whatever, not sure why i even care I don't / will hopefully never have children - i just have to pay into the kitty (as do you all) for abomination of 'service'.

more power to selective education, by ability not geography!

I dunno, everyone I knew from Balfour did better than me! As others have said though, its down to the kid not the school. I didn't want to learn, so I didn't. Can't see it being much different for anyone.

 

[shoes]

I'm all for smug buggers who try to get one-up by swinging the system their way actually getting their come-uppance instead.

Smug buggers.... oh you mean the parents who want the best for their children... those smug motherfu......

 

[shoes]

weston road isn't really a bad school though is it?

anyway, whatever, not sure why i even care I don't / will hopefully never have children - i just have to pay into the kitty (as do you all) for abomination of 'service'.

more power to selective education, by ability not geography!

I dunno, everyone I knew from Balfour did better than me! As others have said though, its down to the kid not the school. I didn't want to learn, so I didn't. Can't see it being much different for anyone.

It's not really about grades either, I didn't even do that well, neither did you but we're both doing fine in life because we have received a rounded education. Those who can speak on many subjects with a little confidence will go much further than those who have a one track knowedgebase.

Social skills are something which you need to learn too, and if you're at a shit school you simply won't learn how to hold your own in front of others. My bosses are constantly throwing me at £100k p.a. clients because I am well spoken and have a good demeanor. If I had attended some crappy inner city school where my vocabulary extended to 'dat iz da bomb init?' then I wouldn't even have the job I have now, let alone be allowed to liaise with clients.

You too tek are well spoken and mild mannered, confident and stong when you need to be. Granted you have been through uni and I imagine that has had a massive influence in rounding you to the person you are now, but when you attend a school you are at your most perceptive and very easily influenced.

 

[John Marwood]

No

 

[tek-monkey]

See, can't say I really attended school as such! In fact in my second to last year I only had one week where I'd been there every day. I was one of the quiet ones, didn't speak much and few people noticed if I didn't turn up. It was college where I became who I am, that along with working at the Colosseum. I found a subject I could engage in (although I still got wasted and screwed up the first year!), and a job that forced me into engaging with people whether I liked it or not.

I'm sure school had some effect on me, but I firmly believe it was age 16-20 that shaped who I am. I suppose everyone is different though.

 

[basil]

My CV reads;..
Sunday School
Junior School
Senior School
College
Poly
Uni
HMP
Psychiatric Institutions
Dole
30+ jobs (uk, europe and the carribean)
Alcoholism
Drug dependency ( prescription and others)
Retirement
Dotage
Senility

most think i'm a well rounded individual........

 

[Gramaisc]

I'm all for smug buggers who try to get one-up by swinging the system their way actually getting their come-uppance instead.

Smug buggers.... oh you mean the parents who want the best for their children... those smug motherfu......

No. I mean people who feel it's OK to break the rules in order to get themselves, or their families, an unfair advantage at the expense of the genuine candidates.

 

[tijuanalady]

I think it should be down to the catchment area. When we came back from the Middle east 4 years ago we put our then 3 year old sons name down at St Annes, bought a very expensive house on Saxonfields and managed to get our daughter in Walton. We struggled to get a place in St Annes. There were people from Western Downs applying to go there too, why? I do know the family concerned now very well but i still don't understand why they choose to travel across town every day just to go to that school - its really not that good! We had one family come round with a petition for us to sign as they had moved into the area and couldn't get a place in Leasowes because of people from outside the area having taken up all the places.
We are now back in the Middle east so out of the UK system for a while but if we had to move back would we get a place?