Former labour councillor Ian hollinshead convicted for benefit fraud .... Nominated for deputy mayor

Tinkerbell

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Just wondering how a councillor who has just been convicted of benefit fraud has been nominated to become the Deputy Mayor of Stafford !! Surely that makes a mockery of the process and brings into question those people who nominated him !! !
 

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proactive

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I can't imagine a better candidate for Deputy Mayor than Ian Hollinshead.

He'll complement perfectly Rolf Harris as Mayor.
 

proactive

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Crime pays in Stafford.
That seems to be the message that our elected councillors are putting across. Shame on them.

Is there a way of getting a list of those that supported this, because I want to make damn sure I don't vote for one of them in May.
 

RowanDraper

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That seems to be the message that our elected councillors are putting across. Shame on them.

Is there a way of getting a list of those that supported this, because I want to make damn sure I don't vote for one of them in May.

The webcast is available here but the nomination was made by Independent Leader Barry Stamp and seconded by Chris Baron:
http://www.staffordbc.public-i.tv/c.../560/166874/166874/webcast/start_time/3559000

For clarity:

It should be noted that the Offices of both Mayor and Deputy Mayor will not be voted on until the Annual Meeting of the Council after the Elections on May 7th 2015.

The nominations are only intentions not ratified or agreed decisions. Those nominations are distributed based on the proportionate membership of the Council, as are seats on scrutiny and regulatory committees.

This means if the independent group fails to be re-elected, their 'nominations' will be re-distributed through the groups that have been elected to the Council. It has happened a number of times to my knowledge when the Mayor of Stafford Borough has been nominated before the election and gone on to fail to be re-elected, and so a new candidate from the council's membership is chosen.

So to summarise there was not a vote at the meeting on who the Council accepts. It won't happen until after the Election
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proactive

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The webcast is available here but the nomination was made by Independent Leader Barry Stamp and seconded by Chris Baron:
http://www.staffordbc.public-i.tv/c.../560/166874/166874/webcast/start_time/3559000

For clarity:

It should be noted that the Offices of both Mayor and Deputy Mayor will not be voted on until the Annual Meeting of the Council after the Elections on May 7th 2015.

The nominations are only intentions not ratified or agreed decisions. Those nominations are distributed based on the proportionate membership of the Council, as are seats on scrutiny and regulatory committees.

This means if the independent group fails to be re-elected, their 'nominations' will be re-distributed through the groups that have been elected to the Council.It has happened a number of times to my knowledge when the Mayor of Stafford Borough has been nominated before the election and gone on to fail to be re-elecred, and so a new candidate from the council's membership is chosen.

So to summarise there was not a vote at the meeting on who the Council accepts. It won't happen until after the Election
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Thanks for the clarification :)
 

Withnail

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Also, the role of Mayor (not the real one, obvs) is purely ceremonial. Would it not be the case that this would effectively nobble him for a year? Assuming he's re-elected of course.

It is my understanding that this is a position that is generally rather reluctantly taken up, not the honour it would appear to be - ameliorated though it is by lots of dinners and cake.

I may well be wrong (not the first time etc) but is it possible to read this as an attempt to bung him out of the chamber for a year?
 

Tinkerbell

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Thanks for clarity - both proposer and seconded from Independent party - obviously just looking after their own.

This nomination does nothing to restore the public's faith in politics - in fact this is a giant back step.

He stood down from Labour party stating it was nothing to do with his case ....... and sighting support for the hospital - is he jumping on the bandwagon to get supporters!!

He did pay it back (but would he of if he hadn't been caught)

Whichever - he should not get a position of trust and shame on Barry Stamp and Chris Baron - they obviously believe fraud is an acceptable practice!
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Also, the role of Mayor (not the real one, obvs) is purely ceremonial. Would it not be the case that this would effectively nobble him for a year? Assuming he's re-elected of course.

It is my understanding that this is a position that is generally rather reluctantly taken up, not the honour it would appear to be - ameliorated though it is by lots of dinners and cake.

I may well be wrong (not the first time etc) but is it possible to read this as an attempt to bung him out of the chamber for a year?
I see no reason why anybody who cares about our town and borough could think it apropriate that a convicted crook could represent Stafford in any kind of position, ceremonial or in the chamber.

Stamp and Baron are as much of a disgrace as Hollingsworth for having complete disregard as to what this says about Stafford, just because he is one of their own.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
I think you forgot the :crossarms:

Apt as a representative of the Borough's Councillors - and a fitting tribute to the outgoing Leader thereof i should coco guv'nor... :)
I realised that was what you meant, rather than the whole place is shit, sort of thing. I'm just lacking a sense of humour re all politicians and things political at the mo :)
 

John Marwood

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Barry I am a Lib Dem oh hang on the Lib Dems are slumping in the polls so lets try being an Independent this time around Stamp?

Shurelyshomemishtake
 
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