General Election 2017

[tek-monkey]

What a dismal election!
Yet it is a straight choice whether you want May or Corbyn as the next Prime Minister.
I have no love for May, as she and the Tories have failed on a number of issues over the past 7 years, But what is the alternative? Corbyn, McDonnell, Thornberry Abbot?
Corbyn would sell out Northern Ireland, he would cosy up to the SNP to get their support. He would not try to reduce immigration indeed he would go out of his way to expand it.. His Leftard sensibilities would stop him tackling extremism and terrorism.
Corbyn is not fit to be Prime Minister.

As we can judge the conservatives on 7 years in power have they cut immigration? Or has it increased, despite their promises? The rest of your post is soundbytes, which policies do you think May has over Corbyn?

 

[Mikinton]

I don't see the point in voting for anyone else bar Labour or Conservative as they just don't have any sort of chance of winning, that's the harsh reality of our political system.

I think if there's a chance of beating your least favourite candidate, then vote for the one with the best chance of doing that and that you find acceptable. But if your least favourite candidate is a shoo-in, then vote for the candidate that best represents your views.

 

[Mikinton]

which policies do you think May has over Corbyn?

NATO and Trident are the obvious ones.

Anyway, even if Labour were to be the biggest party, there is absolutely no chance of the SNP or the Libdems (plus the PLP themselves) supporting a Corbyn led government.

 

[The Hawk]

Regarding the two main parties, I think that if it was purely down to the manifestos, then based on the feedback I've seen, Labour would have a clear lead.

So why have Labour been doing so badly? Well I think there are three groups of people who would vote Labour but, so far, they have not been convinced enough, in sufficiently large numbers, to do so:

• the pro-Corbyn group who do not like/trust most of the other Labour MPs;
• the centre/centre-right potential Labour supporters who do not like Corbyn; and
• those potential Labour supporters who just don't trust Labour to manage the economy.

On the other hand, Theresa May and the Conservatives have clearly overestimated their position of strength and an unpopular leader, plus some of the policies they thought they could get away with, now threaten their "unassailable" lead. Nevertheless, they are the more trusted party on the economy and it is this that I still think will carry them over the line.

What I find more interesting/surprising is, that at a time when the two main parties are regarded as a choice between the least worse option, that other parties are being squeezed so much, just when you might think they would be taking advantage of two relatively weak main parties.

Jeremy Corbyn can not win this election, but Theresa May could yet lose it.

 

[Withnail]

Does anyone else remember having a vote on electoral reform?

I may have imagined it, but i'm almost certain that there was something like a referendum on the matter?

Possibly not, i don't claim to have some sort of 'memory' superpower.

 

[Withnail]

Of course, Diane Abbott would be an unmitigated nightmare in a senior role in Government.

Yet someone like David Davis would be the proverbial 'safe pair of hands' that we could all comfortably sleep in our beds knowing the future is in his hands?

The outcome won't be wooly HAHAHAHAHA

 

[Withnail]

Can i just be absolutely clear ... has there been any assessment since the Referendum on the implications of a No vote..?

 

[John Marwood]

Why we are where we are .....

A reminder


1. Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.

2. The probability that a certain person be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.

3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons, while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.

4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.


This will never alter

 

[tek-monkey]

NATO and Trident are the obvious ones.

Anyway, even if Labour were to be the biggest party, there is absolutely no chance of the SNP or the Libdems (plus the PLP themselves) supporting a Corbyn led government.

I thought labour had agreed to go ahead with trident? I actually admire his stance on NATO, he doesn't want to go to war if things can be worked out without it. He's a pacifist, would make a nice change.

Besides, if we stop selling weapons to the Saudis there may be less wars anyway?

 

[Lucy]

And of course we don't vote for a president, so even though he himself isn't a Trident supporter, he isn't going to make the party change policy.

 

[tek-monkey]

So, I have my postal vote. How am I meant to know it gets there, that it is counted, and that it isn't swapped out at the last minute by the private firm that counts them? It explicitly says I can't mark it in any way other than to put a cross, so no easy way to prove if it was tampered with?

All seems a bit too easy to manipulate?

 

[Mikinton]

I thought labour had agreed to go ahead with trident?

You said "Corbyn" rather than "Labour" ("which policies do you think May has over Corbyn?").

I thought the decision was up for review, and whilst Labour's current position is that it'll renew trident, I'm not sure that's entirely set in stone. This is where it gets confusing as I'm sure Thornberry said one thing and the shadow defense secretary said another.

 

[Mikinton]

So, I have my postal vote. How am I meant to know it gets there, that it is counted, and that it isn't swapped out at the last minute by the private firm that counts them? It explicitly says I can't mark it in any way other than to put a cross, so no easy way to prove if it was tampered with?

All seems a bit too easy to manipulate?

I have grave misgivings about postal voting.

How do we know that you cast your vote in private, with no one looking over your shoulder, pressurising you? After all, people spent years campaigning for a secret ballot.

 

[1JKz]

So, I have my postal vote. How am I meant to know it gets there, that it is counted, and that it isn't swapped out at the last minute by the private firm that counts them? It explicitly says I can't mark it in any way other than to put a cross, so no easy way to prove if it was tampered with?

All seems a bit too easy to manipulate?

Has it a self addressed envelope;
My Vote
2017 Russia Road
Russia

?

 

[1JKz]

I have grave misgivings about postal voting.

How do we know that you cast your vote in private, with no one looking over your shoulder, pressurising you? After all, people spent years campaigning for a secret ballot.

You cast your vote in private OK, but you've people looking over your shoulder, pressurising you each and every time you use social media, each and every time you watch a debate, each and every time you watch the news, EACH AND EVERY TIME you walk down the street!!

 

[joshua]

So, I have my postal vote. How am I meant to know it gets there, that it is counted, and that it isn't swapped out at the last minute by the private firm that counts them? It explicitly says I can't mark it in any way other than to put a cross, so no easy way to prove if it was tampered with?
All seems a bit too easy to manipulate?

 

[tek-monkey]

You said "Corbyn" rather than "Labour" ("which policies do you think May has over Corbyn?").

I thought the decision was up for review, and whilst Labour's current position is that it'll renew trident, I'm not sure that's entirely set in stone. This is where it gets confusing as I'm sure Thornberry said one thing and the shadow defense secretary said another.

Sorry, I'm basing it on their manifesto's not the person. Corbyn is against Trident, but has agreed to carry on with it to appease his MPs. May on the other hand is trying to bring back fox hunting and the ivory trade so....

 

[tek-monkey]

I guess you've never worked on big data projects, it's natural to look for points of failure or manipulation of the data when you know how easy it is to skew it.

 

[1JKz]

Has Diane Abbott changed her hairstyle?

 

[proactive]

So, I have my postal vote. How am I meant to know it gets there, that it is counted, and that it isn't swapped out at the last minute by the private firm that counts them? It explicitly says I can't mark it in any way other than to put a cross, so no easy way to prove if it was tampered with?

All seems a bit too easy to manipulate?

If that's the way you feel why did you apply for a postal vote?

Unless you are elderly or infirm or going to be out of the area all day until after 10pm, I've never understood why people would vote by post.