Google Ranking - Have they moved the goalposts?

MyCult

SEO to the FACE
Not noticed any special tampering across the site(s) I deal with. What niche is the site in question in?

If you tell me the site & search term I'll gladly have a look.

Edit - spelling
 

shoes

Well-Known Forumite
Keeps you busy though buddy - god only knows what kind of trouble you would be causing if google didn't keep you off the streets!
 

MyCult

SEO to the FACE
shoes said:
Keeps you busy though buddy - god only knows what kind of trouble you would be causing if google didn't keep you off the streets!
Left to my own devices... Slinging crack-rock within the week.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/8347975/Google-changes-search-engine-to-favour-quality-content.html

goalposts moves

but only on US based sites
 

MyCult

SEO to the FACE
Yes the 'content-farm' update. We were having a laugh about this one.
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tl;dr said:
Certain software programs used to leverage web 2.0 properties for commercial gain got a little too good at manipulating Googles algorithm. This made them look silly - they don't like looking silly - so they devalued those web 2.0 properties.
My thoughts on the 'content-farm' update (sorry about the length)...

Techcrunch has an OK article about this update but the comments are hilarious. Arron Wall of SEO book has been predicting this happening for a while and has posted an 'I told you so post'.

As ever, with these publicly released|explained updates G is very vaigue about who and what it's targeting (to avoid anti-trust legislation). If they came out and said people are making us look bad by using X.com - the owner of X.com could seek compensation from G for singling them out. Everything released publicly by G is 90% propaganda - G controls webmasters through FUD.

If I'm honest though I think they are trying to close a long-standing and much abused exploit in their algorythm.

It had been relatively easy to rank pages for competitive keywords (and long tail variations) using parasite hosting on certain web 2.0 properties. Affiliates abused the hell out of this with programs like SENuke and 'en masse' filled the SERPs with landing pages for their CPA offers.

These 'easy to rank pages' became standard practice on legitimate sites too for driving additional traffic or capturing more SERP real estate.
They are used less legitimately by affiliates for landing pages on teeth-whitening & skincare re-bills. ;)

Creating a new page on the web 2.0 site allows you to piggyback the authority, trust and age of that web 2.0. If you hammer that page with links you will very quickly watch it top the ranks. Who cares if it eventually gets burned - you never paid for it, it cost nothing in maintenance fees and you can churn out 100's more with ease. Affiliates have 100's of these pages focused around different keywords and Google ranked them very well. Rinse & repeat and you can see how many SERPs began to be dominated by this 'low-quality content'.


Places like hubpages and squidoo were amazing for this.

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Google publicly stated content farms were in their sights for 2011. IMHO Google did this update to close the loop hole being exploited & making them look silly. It has little to do with low quality content. As far as 'content-farms' go the largest offenders are not being punished - I wonder if the fact that these larger farms are monetising with Googles AdSense instead of affiliate offers has saved them from the chopping block...

The quote below is a comment from Tech-crunch and makes a VERY good point:

Bjorn said:
You will then find that answers.com has over 12 MILLION questions that are indexed by Google for which answers.com has absolutely NO answer (i.e. useful content for users) and is duping google into give them traffic--attempting to build their dbase on the backs of google's users who are tricked into clicking on these worthless results. (meanwhile there are better results that are positioned lower on the SERP that already have good content)

Answers.com surrounds the NO ANSWER with Ads, hoping traffic will bring them revenue. It's a racket. Unbelievably, Google still has answers.com at a PR8.
Every word of the above is true. After Googles content farm update Answers.com's shitty, spammy, content-farm content is still in the index.

Google moves goal posts only to save face or for its financial gain. I think this is a FACE saving exercise.

Cu*t

* edit - spelling miftakes & there's probably more.
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
John Marwood said:
i actually understood some of that!

my left knuckle just left the floor...
im glad you did,fancy a cuppa while you explain it to me in english?
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Glam said:
John Marwood said:
i actually understood some of that!

my left knuckle just left the floor...
im glad you did,fancy a cuppa while you explain it to me in english?
Of course

Im back in blighty now for a spell

I can only explain the tiny bit I understand mind

Ye Olde Soupe Kitchene stille Opene?
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
John Marwood said:
Glam said:
John Marwood said:
i actually understood some of that!

my left knuckle just left the floor...
im glad you did,fancy a cuppa while you explain it to me in english?
Of course

Im back in blighty now for a spell

I can only explain the tiny bit I understand mind

Ye Olde Soupe Kitchene stille Opene?
not at this time of night i'm afraid!
 

amicreative

Amy Crompton
The most recent Google update is WELL overdue in my opinion. Love reading all the posts of the spammers who clearly base their whole SEO strategy on shady methods and are now scared :) Justice
 

MyCult

SEO to the FACE
amicreative said:
The most recent Google update is WELL overdue in my opinion. Love reading all the posts of the spammers who clearly base their whole SEO strategy on shady methods and are now scared :) Justice
Totally agree - forum signatures are still well legit though...

That's why I have spammed mine...
 

Wormella

Well-Known Forumite
In related news, fascinating Radio 4 doc on this kind of thing is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b018xy2b/The_Internet_Millionaires_Club/
 
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