iPad defibrillator.

[Gramaisc]

This app could be a real lifesaver..

http://www.firstaidwarehouse.co.uk/xpp-ipad_cu_sp1_aed_defibrillator.html

 

[Jonah]

I wonder how long they will be able to use "IPAD"? I'm pretty sure Apple would have the trademark/copyright/whatever it is for the name.

 

[Gramaisc]

And it's got roundy corners..

 

[littleme]

Not for the general public I guess? I often wonder if using one of these first instead of CPR would save more people, after trying in vein to administer CPR to a neighbour and not really knowing what I was doing/ if I was doing it correctly whilst the 999 operator tired to talk me through it. Personally I think all high school age children should be taught CPR and there should be more difibrilators should be widely available.

 

[Gramaisc]

Not for the general public I guess? I often wonder if using one of these first instead of CPR would save more people, after trying in vein to administer CPR to a neighbour and not really knowing what I was doing/ if I was doing it correctly whilst the 999 operator tired to talk me through it. Personally I think all high school age children should be taught CPR and there should be more difibrilators should be widely available.

"Designed to be used by minimally trained individuals", it says - it has voice prompts and talks you through the procedure, even turning the volume up automatically, if the background noise level is too high.

 

[Nicedave]

Heart Start Staffordshire run courses for CPR and training in usage of defibs . Depending on where you live there are also first responding teams that you can join and train

 

[littleme]

Heart Start Staffordshire run courses for CPR and training in usage of defibs . Depending on where you live there are also first responding teams that you can join and train

I enquired at St Johns Ambulance after the failed attempt at CPR, but the lady there seemed very disinterested and told me to phone a number in Birmingham....hohum.

 

[proactive]

This app could be a real lifesaver..

http://www.firstaidwarehouse.co.uk/xpp-ipad_cu_sp1_aed_defibrillator.html

Every street should have one.

Is there a list anywhere of places in town that do have one?

 

[Gramaisc]

Is there a list anywhere of places in town that do have one?

I believe there are defibrillators in the Guildhall, the Leisure Centre and the Gatehouse - and I did notice the other day that they have one at the Crematorium (one last go?).

There were plans to have one at Casa and also at the Hockey Club, but I'm not sure if those plans have come to fruition yet.

There was an Ambulance Service training course for door staff held in April last year.

 

[Nicedave]

I enquired at St Johns Ambulance after the failed attempt at CPR, but the lady there seemed very disinterested and told me to phone a number in Birmingham....hohum.

The St Johns are nothing to do with Heart Start its funded by British Heart Foundation the local trainer is Duncam Parsonage (Who is employed bt West Midlamds Ambulance Service 07793 040321
Duncan will also tell you where the defibs are

 

[Noah]

I believe there are defibrillators in the Guildhall, the Leisure Centre and the Gatehouse - and I did notice the other day that they have one at the Crematorium (one last go?).

There were plans to have one at Casa and also at the Hockey Club, but I'm not sure if those plans have come to fruition yet.

There was an Ambulance Service training course for door staff held in April last year.

There was a shop in Church Lane that had a defibrillator kept here sign in its window, and I've seen a couple of other places with the signs.

 

[Gramaisc]

There really ought to be a definitive list, surely.

 

[Nicedave]

Police Stations all have them (for the prisoners)
I would check with your gym of choice to ensure they have one and have somne one trained in its use
Also

http://www.wmas.nhs.uk/our_services/heartstart_staffs.aspx

 

[Gramaisc]

I would check with your gym of choice to ensure they have one and have someone trained in its use.

http://www.staffordshirenewsletter....ttack-man-at-Stone-sports-centre-08032013.htm

 

[Carole]

The most common misconception about defibrillators is that they start a heart that is stopped. They don't.

They actually STOP a heart that has gone into ventricular fibrillation (irregular rhythm). Then the heart muscles/ natural pacemaker take over to reset and restart the natural rhythm.

CPR on the other hand does start a heart.

So you really have to know which one to use....CPR or a defib.
The defib does talk you through it and it will tell you whether to "shock now" or to "continue "CPR".

You do need training though because putting the pads on the wrong part of the body renders the whole process useless.

I was trained on the defib with my job before I took voluntary redundancy and I had to be re trained every year.

 

[Nicedave]

Carole

CPR will not restart a heart It (even if done correctly)it will preserve a heart until other measures can be undertaken

 

[Carole]

You are sort of right and I was sort of wrong NiceDave, but I was a litttle bit right too.

It can restart a heart although it is rare and yes the MAIN function of CPR is to restore the flow of blood to the heart and brain.

So I should have said "may" start the heart and not "does" start a heart.

But my main point was that of the de fib which STOPS the heart first before the natural rhythm takes over to restart it.

Anyway, As my other half is always telling me.............I didnt articulate myself properly.

 

[proactive]

I didnt articulate myself properly.

I wouldn't worry about it. It probably didn't cost the lives of more than about half a dozen people.

 

[Withnail]

It probably didn't cost the lives of more than about half a dozen people.

I refute these scandalous allegations. After reading through the entire ingredients list of a box of cornflakes and typing out BOOBS on my calculator, i have established categorically that there was just one excess death attributable to Carole's intervention.