Leave or Remain?

Tilly

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I'm convinced, should there be a 3rd vote, the results will be even more in favour of leaving

People have mass cognitive dissonance, it's like a disease. And it's spreading .
 

Withnail

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I'm convinced, should there be a 3rd vote, the results will be even more in favour of leaving

People have mass cognitive dissonance, it's like a disease. And it's spreading .
Even so, i am more convinced than ever that this is a necessary next step.

There would probably be a consensus within the House that the Withdrawal Agreement as it stands (let alone with any 'alternative arrangements' tacked on to its sorry ass) would pass; if the proviso that an Amendment adjuncted to it that a further referendum were enacted to decide between this 'deal' and the option to withdraw our Article 50 notification were adopted.

For one - it is almost certain that it would be necessary to have an actual reason to 'extend' the 29th March deadline (which necessity is beyond reasonable doubt at this stage), outwith some sort of psychopathic pleasure in kicking that poor can any more - for two it would pass easily through what would be a 'delegated' authority of Barnier et al - and for three it would suit the expediency of the EU as well as ours.

It is not without risk, on either side of the fence, but it is the only realistic escape from the morass we currently wade through.

If, as you suspect, we have a doubling down, at least we can then properly abandon all hope.
 

Tilly

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Even so, i am more convinced than ever that this is a necessary next step.

There would probably be a consensus within the House that the Withdrawal Agreement as it stands (let alone with any 'alternative arrangements' tacked on to its sorry ass) would pass; if the proviso that an Amendment adjuncted to it that a further referendum were enacted to decide between this 'deal' and the option to withdraw our Article 50 notification were adopted.

For one - it is almost certain that it would be necessary to have an actual reason to 'extend' the 29th March deadline (which necessity is beyond reasonable doubt at this stage), outwith some sort of psychopathic pleasure in kicking that poor can any more - for two it would pass easily through what would be a 'delegated' authority of Barnier et al - and for three it would suit the expediency of the EU as well as ours.

It is not without risk, on either side of the fence, but it is the only realistic escape from the morass we currently wade through.

If, as you suspect, we have a doubling down, at least we can then properly abandon all hope.

Properly abandoned already


When you have no hope there is none
 

BobClay

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Hey Theresa, Belgium is pretty much offline of late, good excuse to go on the piss. :heyhey:
 
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BobClay

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Clearly she took my advice, and didn't turn up. Could be I'm in line for a job as an advisor. (Short lived I suspect … :embarrass:)

:aboot:
 

basil

don't mention the blinds
European Research Group

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Peoples Research Group

Democratic Research Group

Nationalist Research Group

Socialist Research Group

Oh such fun......
 

basil

don't mention the blinds
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BobClay

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I've read that book (if I've got this right it's The Road from Cormac McCarthy.) It's good, but it's almost as depressing as this whole sorry Brexit saga. :(
 

BobClay

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DAVE: "Open the European Referendum doors please HAL."
HAL: "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. I know that you and Boris were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen."
DAVE: "Where the hell did you get that idea HAL ?"
HAL: "Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in parliament against my hearing you, I could see your lips move."
DAVE: "All right HAL, I'll get the referendum via the emergency Battle Bus."
HAL: "Without a long term plan Dave, you going to find that rather difficult."
DAVE: "Any chance you could give a heading for the Cayman Islands HAL ?"
HAL: "Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye. "
 

Noah

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There are now queries as to how long Britain will survive, whatever the Brexit outcome. Strictly speaking the wrong question as I cannot see the island of Great Britain breaking into several fragments nor the islands of the Normandy Archipelago (aka British Isles) drifting apart. What it should ask is how long the United Kingdom will survive intact after Brexit. Can almost guarantee though that the last people calling themselves British will be the DUP and their ilk in Northern Island
 
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