Leave or Remain?

[andy w]

But looking back at the direction that Europe has gone over the past 40 years, moving from a trade based Common Market to a ever closer European Union, it is possible to make a good guess on where it will be in 10 years or so.
The migrant crisis and the fundamental problems of the Euro currency shows that it isn't fit for purpose in it's present state. Euro leaders have to decide to either ditch their ambitions and return to a more looser relationship between sovereign states, or plough further on to a much more centralised government of Europe which would diminish nation states and have pan European political parties and an elected President of Europe.

 

[Withnail]

... a much more centralised government of Europe... pan European political parties and an elected President of Europe.

Thing is, though, when you compare the ^above scenario with the following one -

a perpetual Tory government ... trusted to run [its] own affairs ...

- it's not so clear cut as to which is the more scary.

 

[Gramaisc]

Angela Merkel is "the worst Chancellor in the history of Germany", says a leader of the far-right AfD party.

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/ar...in-history-which-is-quite-awkward--b17bt_8d1Z

 

[basil]

Is this a play on 'wurst' ?......

 

[Gramaisc]

Is this a play on 'wurst' ?......

Don't be a silly sausage....

 

[basil]

To some Arthur Balfour was the worst leader in the history of Britain....
"Nothing matters very much and very few things matter at all ".......

 

[ATJ]

I was thoroughly unimpressed to receive a letter from the 'leave' campaign today. I don't know how they got my full name and address and I'm not happy about coming home to personally addressed propaganda.

 

[John Marwood]

I was thoroughly unimpressed to receive a letter from the 'leave' campaign today. I don't know how they got my full name and address and I'm not happy about coming home to personally addressed propaganda.

Electoral roll register typer thang mate

If you can vote you can be found

Could have been worse

I had Mr Sickly and Mr Sickly try to push their sic pampas into my letterbox last week

The fuckets were made to take them back

 

[PeterD]

How does immigration work the other way if we leave, expats in Europe etc. I ask as my parents live in France, it's been pretty handy for wine over the years.

 

[John Marwood]

Vote, Handy for Wine

I like it

 

[Jonah]

How does immigration work the other way if we leave, expats in Europe etc. I ask as my parents live in France, it's been pretty handy for wine over the years.

I would imagine it would work very similar to how it's always worked.

I find it funny that British people who live in a different country are always called ex-pats when in fact they have emigrated and are actually immigrants to their chosen country. And conversely, people who emigrate to Britain are never referred to as ex-pats and always immigrants.

This is not a criticism of your parents btw.

 

[PeterD]

I would imagine it would work very similar to how it's always worked.

I find it funny that British people who live in a different country are always called ex-pats when in fact they have emigrated and are actually immigrants to their chosen country. And conversely, people who emigrate to Britain are never referred to as ex-pats and always immigrants.

This is not a criticism of your parents btw.

I remind them weekly they are immigrants.

 

[John Marwood]

Ex Pats V Cow Pats

Who would win?

 

[Ecker]

I hope you all enjoyed the letter you got from the little Englanders at: LEAVE.EU;
the address of which is: CatBrain Lane in Bristol.

What a very appropriate address !! I'm presuming that Bristol doesn't have a
BirdBrain Lane

 

[John Marwood]

I hope you all enjoyed the letter you got from the little Englanders at: LEAVE.EU;
the address of which is: CatBrain Lane in Bristol.

What a very appropriate address !! I'm presuming that Bristol doesn't have a
BirdBrain Lane

Vault Poster

 

[ATJ]

I hope you all enjoyed the letter you got from the little Englanders at: LEAVE.EU;
the address of which is: CatBrain Lane in Bristol.

What a very appropriate address !! I'm presuming that Bristol doesn't have a
BirdBrain Lane

I particularly liked the way that none of the 'facts' contained any confusing numbers or statistics to back them up.

 

[Jonah]

I got the letter. Opened it, saw what it was about, thought 'f**k off' and then shredded it.

 

[andy w]

I was thoroughly unimpressed to receive a letter from the 'leave' campaign today. I don't know how they got my full name and address and I'm not happy about coming home to personally addressed propaganda.

Swings and roundabouts I suppose. I had a leaflet addressed to me from Stronger in the EU last week. It's claim that the UK was safer by staying in the EU rang a little hollow considering it was delivered on the same day as the attacks on Brussels.

 

[Gramaisc]

Swings and roundabouts I suppose. I had a leaflet addressed to me from Stronger in the EU last week.

I had a Stronger In leaflet last week - mine was just shoved in through the door - no name or address on it.

 

[proactive]

Lefroy must be very grateful for the fact the fence he sits on has no sharp bits. Still it must hurt is arse, being on it so much of the time.