Margaret Thatcher is dead - Monday 8th April 2013

Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt

Well-Known Forumite
ive learnt to keep a silent but active approach when it comes to politics, however after hearing today they may ring big ben for all the years shes been alive is becoming a bit too much for my tummy to handle.

I don't blindly make comments without good reason, ive lived through the Thatcher years. not able to get a real job after leaving school mainly because the posts available was for YTS ( and I did those for 2 years).
watch my dad have lose his house through repossession because he couldn't find work fast enough to keep it. and throughout these past 15 years cared for my mother when my dad died who was disabled as well as my wife who again is also disabled.

... and what does this government do to help ? , badge me as a scrounger because i haven't got the time or the energy to manage to hold down a job at the same time.
and the icing on the cake will be my wife having to attend yet another ATOS interview in case shes made a miracle recovery that shes not informed them about.

rant over, sorry.

I also lived through the Thatcher years. I recieved a good standard of education that gave me recognised qualifications. I did this free from endless top-down interference, curriculum changes and near constant examinations. I thenwent on to University where I had to pay no tuition fees and recieved a generous grant to help me through. I then got a job in a growing economy that ten years previous would have been almost impossible as I probably would have been bullied into striking.

My parents were able to own their own home and save into good pensions that hadn't been raided. I feel for your situation but I think it should be recognised that there are always two sides to everything. I'd be the first to admit that she certainly didn't get everything right and I could point to numerous parts of her record that I think were plain wrong but overall looking at the state of Britain in 1979 compared with when she left office in 1990 on balance she certainly pulled us back from the brink and left the Nation in a better state than she found.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
I agree, there are always two sides. I also had an alright education, free uni and got a degree and a job in industry. My parents however were shafted, my mum was on benefits under Thatcher so that wasn't exactly great and my step dad has had his pension destroyed (although to be fair both Labour and Conservatives seem to have had a crack there), and despite working for the same firm all his life (under probably 8 different names) and always paying in he won't be getting much more than state pension anyway.

Apart from my lack of milk I actually did OK, although of course Labour got in when I was 19 anyway. So while I'm alright jack, I can't forgive what happened to others. There seem to be four distinct groups of people voicing their opinion at the min.

Did well under Thatcher's economic policies.
Did badly under Thatcher's economic policies.
What is an economic policy?
Wasn't even born.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Factors involved in the 'standard of living' of an individual at a certain point or points in time may include the Government and its legislation of that time

To believe that this is the only, or even most important factor, is rather naive
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
I know it isn't the only factor, but after my dad walked and my mum was left with 4 kids and claiming benefits it was a pretty large factor in my upbringing. I have less than fond memories of sitting around Kemley House while they sorted out how much to deduct from her benefits each week because she dared to earn more than a fiver in her part time cleaning job. We'd have been quids in under Labour, but they were to the other extreme which I also disagree with.

Luckily once my youngest brother was old enough to go to school she could get a proper job, but it wasn't exactly an option until then. So yeah, pretty important factor really.
 

Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt

Well-Known Forumite
Factors involved in the 'standard of living' of an individual at a certain point or points in time may include the Government and its legislation of that time

To believe that this is the only, or even most important factor, is rather naive

Perhaps only as naive as thinking that every single thing wrong with a Nation can be pin pointed towards one person or the folly of believing that adding ridiculous pictures of a person in any way adds amusement or clarity to the argument
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
There seem to be four distinct groups of people voicing their opinion at the min.

Did well under Thatcher's economic policies.
Did badly under Thatcher's economic policies.
What is an economic policy?
Wasn't even born.
I'm not sure which one I come under as I know what an economic policy is and lived through 5 years of her reign, but I wasn't really old enough to know whether I did well or badly under Thatcher's policies.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
TBH I only fell under her reign while an adult for a few short years, so I base my opinion on how my mum was treated. That was bad, I wont lie I am anti Conservative solely for that. A short sighted belief but hey, aren't they all. Unfortunately I still have the sour taste of voting in Tony Blair in my mouth, so can't really say much.
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
TBH I only fell under her reign while an adult for a few short years, so I base my opinion on how my mum was treated. That was bad, I wont lie I am anti Conservative solely for that. A short sighted belief but hey, aren't they all. Unfortunately I still have the sour taste of voting in Tony Blair in my mouth, so can't really say much.
Me too... Ugh.
 

Floss

Well-Known Forumite

If closing the hospitals wont do it, we'll starve them to death by taking away free school meals and any other pleasure in life! And if that don't kill the buggars off, they can 'swat til they drop' and we can steal their money, so they don't become a drain on the system, by never letting them retire at a reasonable age and claim any of their pensions (he he more money for government expenses) In the mean time they can pay for the dole dossers, immigrants and anyone else who chooses to live at hotel Jeremy Kyle !
 

basil

don't mention the blinds
She did none of the "major achievements" that she's being credited with these past two weeks. She just happened to be in the chair when they happened. I move!.................
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
She did none of the "major achievements" that she's being credited with these past two weeks. She just happened to be in the chair when they happened. I move!.................

Wheeltappers? Shunters? What did they ever do for this country? Eh, eh?

The Big Society will be our saviour
 
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