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More housing, who needs the countryside anyway ?

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  1. proactive

    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    You can build as many doctor's surgeries as you like. The real problem is there aren't any doctor's anymore and likely to be even less post Brexit.
     
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    You do raise a very good point.
    But I do think that perhaps one of the reasons that we don’t have enough people training or wanting to be doctors is that they were/are massively over stretched.
    Not enough surgeries built, too few doctors stretched to capacity.

    Build more and more surgeries, spread the load, make the job more respectable/attractive again.

    I might be accused of simplifying the issue but often enough the simplest option is the one most often overlooked.
     
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    It's a good theory, but it take 7 years to train so we're likely to have a huge skills gap in the meantime.
     
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    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    I took a form into my mother's GP that needed his signature -

    I said to the receptionist, "I can pass by again this afternoon, if that's any use"

    Her response was "Well, if you can hang on a few minutes, I'll get him to do it now"

    I am not in the UK....
     
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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    I took a form to my GP last week for a signature. The receptionist said I could come back for it in 10 working days. And it would cost £25.

    I am in the UK.
     
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    There is a website which developers use to determine whether there is likely to be a need for a contribution towards doctors surgeries and dentists - apologies I can't remember the correct title - it's something like nhs net.

    Basically the website tells you how many doctors and dentists there are per population.
     
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    And what is the 'catchment' of your mother's GP?

    Is it in any way comparable to, say, someone in Holmcroft?

    How many people live in the entirety of the Republic of Ireland, and how many is that as a percentage of those that reside in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

    Are these numbers in any way comparable, and what general conclusions can we make when we compare them?

    Where did you come from, and where did you go?

    I would have been married a long time ago were it not for the malign influence of Cotton-Eyed Joe.
     
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    Sorry - would 'of' been...
     
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    Vote Conservative

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    Vote for more sick people on the streets spoiling your trip to the theatre

    Vote for £50 doctors appointments

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    Gently down the stream

    Merrily merrily merrily

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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Is that really a quote from the FT?
     
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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    A quick look at the FT website would indicate this is fake news.
     
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    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    I don't know how many he has on his list, but he is a sole practitioner (still possible here) in a town with an urban population of about 1,250, plus the hinterland, and the nearest GP is about ten of your Imperial miles away.

    In terms of access to him, there is, indeed, very little comparison.

    The size of the national populations alone is not really of any significance.

    Ireland has about 2,500 GPs for a population of 4.8 million - so, 1 per 1,920 inhabitants.

    England has about 40,000 GPs, for a population of 56,000,000 - so, 1 per 1.400 inhabitants.

    I came from about 500 metres to the east of here.
     
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    Yes
     
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    No
     
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    But the ads in the European edition are far more interesting

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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Weird, it didn't appear, even in a search when I looked earlier but it does now.

    I sit corrected and many apologies.
     
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    Plans to build up 2,000 homes and two new schools have been delayed after concerns were raised about the development's impact on flooding and health services.
    Maximus Strategic Stafford LLP submitted the proposals to develop the 353-acre site north of Beaconside, in Stafford, back in late 2016.
    And almost three years on, they were considered by Stafford Borough Council's planning committee at a special meeting on Tuesday.
    But councillors questioned the highways plans and the effect on healthcare due to demand on GP services.
    They also called for assurance that measures to deal with drainage and flood prevention would be effective in the wake of recent flooding in the nearby Sandon Road area following heavy rainfall.
    Alongside the 2,000 new homes, outline permission is being sought for a primary school, secondary school, two 'local centres' to provide retail and business space, an 'elderly living facility' with up to 60 beds, a health centre, a park, sports facilities, community gardens and roads.
    Nearby resident Ian Roscoe, who spoke against the application at Tuesday's meeting, said: "No matter what people say, these poor people of Sandon Road will get flooded time and time again."

    Committee member Jack Kemp said: "During the last bad weather, we had houses flooded in Sandon Road to a degree I have never seen in 55 years of being in this area. Someone was able to row a canoe up Sandon Road."
    He has also raised concerns over the proportion of affordable homes proposed for the site - 12 per cent. The council's own policy states that developments of 12 or more residential properties within Stafford must deliver 30 per cent affordable housing.

    Fellow committee member Marnie Phillips said: "I'm not happy that the affordable housing is going to be in clusters of five or 10 - I don't like the idea of segregation."
    But Mark Dauncey, who spoke in support of the application, told the committee the development would bring an extra 240 new affordable homes to the borough.
    "This application will provide two per cent of the council's allocated local housing requirement up to 2031", he added. "It is vital for the council to be able to maintain a five-year housing land supply.

    "In terms of housing mix, viability is an issue, due to the infrastructure costs associated with the scheme. The section 106 agreement (which covers contributions towards environmental and social infrastructure such as education and open space) will include a review mechanism which allows consideration of changing market conditions."



    If permission is granted for the development, financial contributions worth more than £31 million are set to made, including £9.2 million for off-site highways works and more than £13 million for education.



    Planning officer John Holmes told the committee there were measures designed to make the current situation at Sandon Road better.
    And ward councillor Frances Beatty, who called in the application for consideration by the committee two years ago, said there had been changes made since she first raised concerns.
    She said: "I had almost forgotten I had called it in. There is no doubt that the work our adviser and senior planning officers put in has made a really good design for the site.
    "I'm sorry about the affordable housing - it is a substantial reduction - but I understand the reasons for it."

    Councillor Ann Edgeller called for the committee to defer its decision. She said: "I would have liked more time to consider this application and I would have liked the highways and environmental people to be here.
    "Given the concerns around the table, with regards to highways and CCG (clinical commissioning group) can we send it back and get these people around the table to answer questions?
    "This is the biggest housing development that is going to be happening in Stafford borough."
    The proposals, which fellow committee members agreed to defer, are part of the masterplan for the future development of north Stafford.

    In total, around 3.100 new homes and 88 acres of employment space were earmarked for the north of the town in the proposals by Maximus and Azko Nobel UK, which went on show to the public in 2015.

    Stafford Borough Council formally granted permission for Akzo Nobel UK Limited's plans for 700 homes and a primary school on land north of Marston Grange in October 2018 - the year after the authority's planning committee gave the application the thumbs up in December 2017.

    Miller Homes has been allowed to build 100 new homes on a nearby site off Marston Lane, while Taylor Wimpey has secured permission for more than 400 new homes on land north of Beaconside at Marston Grange.
     
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    And (most) people pay to see their GP unlike here (either directly or through VHI right?)
     

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